Hello! I have a KoL account, and I play frequently. Or I try, anyway. I'll try it again and let you know, since it's a little while since I did play it a lot as an example.
Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Oct 2, 2010, at 11:18 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > hadn't considered growl for skype. > > as for a live chat html page, I used to be able to use them when my eyes were > working (even minimally as they were) without a great deal of interaction > (just typing and reading). I find I can't function that way given voiceover's > limitations. take a look at the kingdom of loathing main screen (if you don't > have a player in that game, its free to create one). the chat pain is live > chat, but I can't seem to get voiceover to behave very well on it (it ;oops > on "loading chat" and then won't read the last line). I am trying a new > method that seems to work ok with skype and adium. if it works with live chat > html pages, then I am gold. if not, I am not sure what else to do. > > -Eric > > On Oct 2, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I think you're getting a bit confused here. :) >> >> VoiceOver isn't supposed to update itself. It actually works really well >> with dynamic HTML areas, even live chats. You have to go to the last item >> yourself because that is because you're expected to interact just as much as >> a sighted user would. >> >> If I understand you correctly, you expect it to read automatically which >> isn't going to happen unless you make an AppleScript, I suppose. Or you >> could use Growl in Skype. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> On Oct 2, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: >> >>> reality check cashed. >>> I have had a few "limitation" problems with voiceover (especially as far as >>> live chat sessions are concerned). part of the problem with some websites >>> is that they force a reload every few seconds and that trips up voiceover >>> (I have encountered this already). Another problem is some websites do not >>> use headers for their info, thus you are forced to hop from link to link to >>> get your info. Frames are a bit easier to handle but not always do they >>> work. >>> >>> I haven't tried the latest openoffice. I had a version or 2 back that >>> worked nicely with voiceover. >>> >>> I wish we had some more features that could be switched in for active chats >>> and live scrolling web pages (irc style chats). >>> >>> fyi, the following apps do not work with voiceover at all: >>> mozilla thunderbird >>> mozilla firefox >>> virtualbox (however tts systems inside the VM work perfectly well) >>> >>> I still have problems with sky[pe for OS X, but I have a workaround for the >>> live chat screens. >>> I simply go into the html area (VO+shift+down arrow) page down to the end, >>> VO+shift+F3 to turn off cursor tracking. then VO+end to read the last >>> message (having the skype chime on for last message received allows you to >>> know when a message has arrived) and then you just hit enter to type in the >>> edit box as normal. you will have to hit VO+end every time a new message >>> appears but this works. >>> >>> -Eric >>> >>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Scott Ford wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> I am working on a Mac book pro in win 7. Unfortunately I keep >>>> finding myself having to do this. Part is my inability to completely grasp >>>> voice over in a really efficient way. However I feel to a larger part I >>>> cannot get the functionality that I find necearry to complete my work and >>>> university assignments. For example last night I was searching for >>>> information on a pelit stove that I am working on. I found a good and very >>>> informative site, however the mouse over functions were completely crazy. >>>> Nothing was folloing a sequence that I could replicate, finally just by >>>> clicking on every mouse over on the page all of the information was >>>> displayed. I went into windows and discovered that the site was solid. >>>> This is only one event. I very frequently find that this is occurring even >>>> in google of all places. Many times the heading hot key does not function >>>> properly. Can you tell me if you guys are running into similar >>>> frustrations? I find similar troubles with the need for a good word >>>> processor and spreadsheet application. I will not go into details right >>>> now, but I too am questioning how long before we can expect a bit more >>>> stability and a solid tool for productivity? I love the sleek design and >>>> form factor in the mac, however I am not seeing the craze and mysticism >>>> that >>>> many folks are embuing the machines with. I have found the hardware just >>>> as >>>> pron to wear and tare and failer as on a PC. I will stop my rant and I >>>> really appoligize if I have offended anyone, that was certainly not my >>>> intentions. I just want a bit of a reality check. >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> Eric Oyen - N7ZZT >>> Phoenix Arizona >>> Geocode: >>> 33.488462 -112.234926 >>> N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Eric Oyen - N7ZZT > Phoenix Arizona > Geocode: > 33.488462 -112.234926 > N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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