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So that backup is from September 7 at 4:54PM (1654) and six seconds. Inside you will find what seems like a complete copy of everything but secretly any file that didn't change is just a link to the original backup made in one of the previous runs.
CB On 9/3/10 4:42 AM, William Windels wrote:
hello, about time-machine, it's true that the backup disc contains a exact copy of your harddrive and you can browse in it with the finder but: since time-machine makes automatic backups on several moments, there is no place where you can find the whole copy of your hd with all the same elements that where on your computer when the last backup was made. So, as I understand well, on the folders on the root of your backupdrive, you will find a list of folders with the date of the backup included in the name. e.g. if you would like to restore a whole folder that you have deleted in several stapes: different files of that folder on different times and the folder itself on a later time, it would be a hard djob to restore the whole folder in one task. The time-machine program , gives a visual environment todo that but this interface isn't accessible with vo at all. any comments are very welcome best regards, William Op 3-sep-2010, om 04:15 heeft Sarah Alawami het volgende geschreven:OH cool! I'll have to play with it when I convert my older drive in to a time machine back up. Thanks. On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:That's correct. IF you take a look ast your backup disk, and if you go in to each back up, what you find there is an exact image copy of your Mac primary hard drive just as if you were looking at the actual hard disk itself. In short, once you open each backup, you should be able to navigate to exactly the files you want to recover by hand because everything will be in the very same place on the backup that is was on your Mac's primary drive at the time the bacup was made. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Time Machine is actually accessible, but you can just go to the backup disk and pull the content you want to recover and copy back to your machine. On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:It's taken my machine down but that was before I realized how to get around it with out a restart. All in all voice over is the best thing since sliced bread. As for the time machine restores don't you need to use your restore disk in order to restore? I mean your system disk? I would not know as I don't use time machine at all. S On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Scott Howell wrote:Although you have some valid points, VoiceOver will improve and these issues will be addressed. The big difference is that windows-based screen readers have been around for quite a while, so admittedly they have a jump on VoiceOver in some respects. However, what APple has accomplished in the last five years is amazing. Give Apple five more years and I suspect VoiceOver will exceed what the windows screen readers have done in the same period of time. Of course you use what tools work best and no tool is perfect. THe one thing I can say is that at least VO has not taken my machine down and that alone makes me very happy. On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:15 PM, William Windels wrote:Hello, I want also to say something about this topic: Apple is doing great efforts to make their products accessible and macosx with voiceover is in global, working good. Also , the trackpad is a very nice feature that don't exist on windows computers for blind users. However, I have also some remarks: since 10.6, voiceover isn't that stable like in 10.5. Sometimes, voiceover is restarting while reading texts , I think because of some strange characters. But, this is not a big problem while comparing with windows and the screenreaders because they are also crashing sometimes. A bigger problem , in my opinion is that voiceover from apple is the only screenreader on the mac. I mean: since safari 5, the braille isn't working correctly in formfields. This problem can also happen of course on windows when a new release of a browser is installed but, on windows , there are at least 2 browsers that are fully supported by the most screenreaders: internet explorer, firefox and perhaps opera. firefox 4 (beta) isn't also accessible with voiceover after a first look. Also, the time-machine program, to restore e.g. a deleted folder from the past, isn't accessible with vo. The automatic backup system of timemachine works great! Pages, a great texteditor isn't also fully accessible : tables in pages are n't working with vo. The numbers application has not the same features as excel with a screenreader. Navigation in numbers is missing some important features. Also: the braille representation on the mac has not the same contort as on windows, I give 2 examples: The text on the brailledisplay isn't independent of the speech. so. in global, what the mac says, that will be shown on the braille display and revers. It makes it much more powerful if you can configure what to read in braille and what to hear. A second thing is the representation of controls on a braille display: They should give a option to configure how the representation of a radio button, a button, a dropbox/pull down menu, a checkbox, a link, should be shown on a braille display. The best solution here is to have language independent symbols for this kind of controls. Since some people have only a braille display of 12, 20 or 40 characters, it doesn't make sence to see only checkbox on your display. When I try to speak with other blind people about the mac and the included accessibility, the first question they ask is about particular programs they want to use. When I compare this about text processors, internet, spreadsheets , databases (ms access), powerpoints, chatting, listening to music..., not all of this tasks gives the same confort on a mac as on windows. Conclusion: I love the mac , osx is great but the accessibility is still a work in progress and, in my opinion, not at the same level of most windows screenreaders. best regards, William Op 2-sep-2010, om 22:47 heeft Mike Arrigo het volgende geschreven:Just a few comments to add to this. First, I think gw-micro is a great company and window eyes is a great product, I'm using it with my work computer to write this message. With regard to supporting the web, at this point at least, voiceover is actually ahead of window eyes, because it handles the pages that change dinamicly. 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