Hi esther,

 Thanks a lot for this information, it's greatly appreciated.


 I had been looking at different things about the blueant q1, but couldn't
find a lot on using it with the pad and skype. Especially with skype.

 but this information, I had gotten the impression the q1 was the device to
focus on more. So I'll look at tracking one down I think. Although they
don't appear to be available here in nz yet.

 Much thanks gain for the info.

simon
  

-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Sunday, 1 August 2010 10:09 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: blue tooth on iPad

Hi Simon,

Most of the discussion about Bluetooth headsets for the iPhone and other
idevices has taken place on the viphone list.  I have an iPod Touch and
iPad, but followed with interest the earlier list discussion at the end of
last year about the firmware upgradability of the BlueAnt Q1 headset to
support stereo A2DP, which allows both VoiceOver to be heard, as well as
turn-by-turn direction announcements in GPS navigation apps that use this
feature.  So I set up a BlueAnt Q1 headset last November for someone who was
not using an Apple iPhone, but was thinking that he might get one at a later
date.  The Q1 is another single ear headset, and a successor to the V1,
which was BlueAnt's first voice controlled Bluetooth headset.  They made the
design more ergonomic with a slightly curved shape instead of the straight
bar of the V1, and also introduced a few small improvements in the Voice
Control menus -- mainly for speed dialing.  However, the major difference
was designing the Q1 so that it could take firmware  
upgrades, and then giving it support for A2DP through the upgrade.   
There is also now a BlueAnt T1 headset, which also takes firmware upgrades,
and which has A2DP built in.  One warning is that the software updates must
all currently be done under Windows -- the Mac version of the firmware
update has shown up as being in the works for about 8 months now.

My guess is that when the iPad update is released for OS 4 (or iOS 4, as the
version for the iPhone and iPod Touch is called), your BlueAnt
V1 might be recognized by the iPad, but without VoiceOver, so you could use
it for Skype calls then.  The software update is supposed to come out in
September.

I did some searching to check whether the Jawbone Icon that Scott Howell
uses for his iPhone (with the new A2DP update) would work on the iPad.
Here's what I found in the Jawbone support forums, where most people seemed
to like the A2DP update for iPhone use, but said this could be improved or
added to for use with the iPad and other
devices:

<begin excerpt>
Thanks for the update with A2DP. NIce feature but is not complete yet in my
opinion. This function its working only with the phones.
  I did some tests with a
laptop : works very fine without the new update A2DP especially with windows
7 (same features like a phone when you use VOIP). I used skype. The
situation changed when I did the update: the volume decreased, quality low,
press and hold it doesn't work .
iphone : works very fine with the new update A2DP and it's an improvement.
Sound is a little bit low but it can be increased with press and hold, but
is stereo .
iPad apple : it doesn't  work without the A2DP update (it's not pairing and
it doesn't see the icon on dicovery mode). After the update it's working but
the sound is low and press and hold is not working. The ipad also doesn't
recognize the mic so you can't talk direct to icon. However you can listen
music when you navigate on web and it's stereo.
I didn't try it on a Mac , because i dont have it yet.
<end excerpt>

There was a later software update, and the recent comments:
<begin excerpt>
The icon seems to work with the iPad but now won't pair to my phone..... :-(
then:
Duh.... Got it to pair - but now I'd like to add my name to the volume and
pause requests! Need more volume and PLEASE enable the ability to pause
playback... My other bluetooth headset works w/pause but I'd like to retire
it for the Jawbone..
<end excerpt>

So, it sounds to me as though on of the BlueAnt headsets (Q1 or T1) might be
a better choice for your iPad.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 30, 2010, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> Esther, is the q1, also a single ear head phone, or is it both ears?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
> Sent: Saturday, 31 July 2010 9:31 a.m.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: blue tooth on iPad
>
> Hi Simon,
>
> I'm not sure why the BlueAnt V1 isn't picked up by the iPad; the 
> BlueAnt Q1 can pair to the iPad and also relay VoiceOver (with the 
> Firmware upgrade support of A2DP).  A Jawbone Icon without the 
> Firmware upgrade to support A2DP wasn't seen by the iPad, so maybe the 
> iPad requires A2DP for its Bluetooth devices?  I know that the iPad 
> does support the A2DP stereo Bluetooth profile, but not the HandsFree 
> Bluetooth profile used by the iPhone for dealing with calls.
>
> Did you get the iPad Camera Connection Kit?  You might be able to use 
> a USB headset with the USB to dock connector, although I haven't tried 
> this.  I am able to record directly to apps by connecting an iMic to 
> the USB to dock connector component of the Camera Connection Kit.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> On Jul 28, 2010, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>
>> Don't think so, it just seems that the blue ant isn't seen by the 
>> ipad.  And it's only 6 months old the blue ant,
>>
>>
>> So can only assume that they aren't going to play nice. The v1 works 
>> fine on my nokia n86 and a nokia n82.
>>
>> Still some playing to be had.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Isaac Obie
>> Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 11:12 p.m.
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: blue tooth on iPad
>>
>> Simon,
>> Could it be the connections? Sometimes trying to connect these things 
>> can be a bear! I've seen connections for some computers that were so 
>> delicate, I wondered why they even bothered to go there especially 
>> considering how expensive that equipment is.
>> Isaac
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Simon Fogarty" <si...@blinky-net.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:19 AM
>> Subject: RE: blue tooth on iPad
>>
>>
>>> I'm after a blue tooth headset ha t only goes on one ear. That 
>>> allows me to listen and walk at the same time as well as listening 
>>> to my environment as well.
>>>
>>> But for some reasn the blueant v1 doesn't work on the iPad or at 
>>> least in ios 3.2.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lane
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2010 5:31 a.m.
>>> To: MacVisionaries
>>> Subject: Re: blue tooth on iPad
>>>
>>> Hi, Yeh the iPad and iPhone 4 use a micro SIM, everything else in 
>>> the world uses mini SIM.  They are exactly the same internal 
>>> configuration but the micro loses the plastic surround making it 
>>> considerably smaller. If you are daring enough you can cut any mini 
>>> SIM down to micro SIM size.  Anyway to answer the question about 
>>> bluetooth, I use a Nokia BH905.  Its a headset style over the head 
>>> arrangement and supports A2DP and AVRC as well as standard headset 
>>> protocols.  Its a really nice headset with noise cancelling, a 
>>> beautiful design and feels very solid.  Unfortunately the iPhone and 
>>> iPad don't support AVRC for remote control of 
>>> play/pause/forward/backward. which is a pain but the biggest issue 
>>> on the iPhone iPad and iPod is the resolution of the bluetooth 
>>> protocol.
>>> It hasn't been complained about very much so I asume that most 
>>> people don't notice.
>>> I
>>> don't have any measurements but i'd guess A2DP on the i devices is 
>>> limitted to only 12KHz, maybe 16 but certainly not 22 or 44.  Music 
>>> through all bluetooth headphones that I've heard is tinny and 
>>> limited in trebble.
>>> It isn't a limitation of the bluetooth protocol as if I pair them 
>>> with my Nokia N86 or N95 they sound spectacular.  I was really 
>>> hoping Apple would address this issue in IOS 4 but I guess they 
>>> haven't had enough complaints about it yet.  Its very annoying 
>>> though as I have a beautiful sounding headset crippled by apples 
>>> drivers.  In summary though the BH905 will do exactly what you want, 
>>> they are solid and sound wonderful as long as you don't mind losing 
>>> a little trebble.
>>>
>>> Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>> Hi Mac people,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've just splashed out and got the iPad,  great toy after shaving a 
>>>> sim card down to fit the micro slot, and being able to get internet 
>>>> access outside of my work and home.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> However, I have a Bluetooth headset, a blue ant V1, but the iPad 
>>>> wont pick up on it when trying to pair them both.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is this normal, I would have thought the blue ant devices were 
>>>> pretty common devices.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If this one wont work, is there anything that is recommended for 
>>>> the Bluetooth connectivity on the iPad?
>>>>
>>>> I want to be able to skype from it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Simon f
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