Hi Simon,
Most of the discussion about Bluetooth headsets for the iPhone and
other idevices has taken place on the viphone list. I have an iPod
Touch and iPad, but followed with interest the earlier list discussion
at the end of last year about the firmware upgradability of the
BlueAnt Q1 headset to support stereo A2DP, which allows both VoiceOver
to be heard, as well as turn-by-turn direction announcements in GPS
navigation apps that use this feature. So I set up a BlueAnt Q1
headset last November for someone who was not using an Apple iPhone,
but was thinking that he might get one at a later date. The Q1 is
another single ear headset, and a successor to the V1, which was
BlueAnt's first voice controlled Bluetooth headset. They made the
design more ergonomic with a slightly curved shape instead of the
straight bar of the V1, and also introduced a few small improvements
in the Voice Control menus -- mainly for speed dialing. However, the
major difference was designing the Q1 so that it could take firmware
upgrades, and then giving it support for A2DP through the upgrade.
There is also now a BlueAnt T1 headset, which also takes firmware
upgrades, and which has A2DP built in. One warning is that the
software updates must all currently be done under Windows -- the Mac
version of the firmware update has shown up as being in the works for
about 8 months now.
My guess is that when the iPad update is released for OS 4 (or iOS 4,
as the version for the iPhone and iPod Touch is called), your BlueAnt
V1 might be recognized by the iPad, but without VoiceOver, so you
could use it for Skype calls then. The software update is supposed to
come out in September.
I did some searching to check whether the Jawbone Icon that Scott
Howell uses for his iPhone (with the new A2DP update) would work on
the iPad. Here's what I found in the Jawbone support forums, where
most people seemed to like the A2DP update for iPhone use, but said
this could be improved or added to for use with the iPad and other
devices:
<begin excerpt>
Thanks for the update with A2DP. NIce feature but is not complete yet
in my opinion. This function its working only with the phones.
I did some tests with a
laptop : works very fine without the new update A2DP especially with
windows 7 (same features like a phone when you use VOIP). I used
skype. The situation changed when I did the update: the volume
decreased, quality low, press and hold it doesn't work .
iphone : works very fine with the new update A2DP and it's an
improvement. Sound is a little bit low but it can be increased with
press and hold, but is stereo .
iPad apple : it doesn't work without the A2DP update (it's not
pairing and it doesn't see the icon on dicovery mode). After the
update it's working but the sound is low and press and hold is not
working. The ipad also doesn't recognize the mic so you can't talk
direct to icon. However you can listen music when you navigate on web
and it's stereo.
I didn't try it on a Mac , because i dont have it yet.
<end excerpt>
There was a later software update, and the recent comments:
<begin excerpt>
The icon seems to work with the iPad but now won't pair to my
phone..... :-(
then:
Duh.... Got it to pair - but now I'd like to add my name to the volume
and pause requests! Need more volume and PLEASE enable the ability to
pause playback... My other bluetooth headset works w/pause but I'd
like to retire it for the Jawbone..
<end excerpt>
So, it sounds to me as though on of the BlueAnt headsets (Q1 or T1)
might be a better choice for your iPad.
HTH. Cheers,
Esther
On Jul 30, 2010, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Esther, is the q1, also a single ear head phone, or is it both ears?
-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, 31 July 2010 9:31 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: blue tooth on iPad
Hi Simon,
I'm not sure why the BlueAnt V1 isn't picked up by the iPad; the
BlueAnt Q1
can pair to the iPad and also relay VoiceOver (with the Firmware
upgrade
support of A2DP). A Jawbone Icon without the Firmware upgrade to
support
A2DP wasn't seen by the iPad, so maybe the iPad requires A2DP for its
Bluetooth devices? I know that the iPad does support the A2DP stereo
Bluetooth profile, but not the HandsFree Bluetooth profile used by the
iPhone for dealing with calls.
Did you get the iPad Camera Connection Kit? You might be able to
use a USB
headset with the USB to dock connector, although I haven't tried
this. I am
able to record directly to apps by connecting an iMic to the USB to
dock
connector component of the Camera Connection Kit.
Cheers,
Esther
On Jul 28, 2010, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Don't think so, it just seems that the blue ant isn't seen by the
ipad. And it's only 6 months old the blue ant,
So can only assume that they aren't going to play nice. The v1 works
fine on my nokia n86 and a nokia n82.
Still some playing to be had.
-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Isaac Obie
Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 11:12 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: blue tooth on iPad
Simon,
Could it be the connections? Sometimes trying to connect these things
can be a bear! I've seen connections for some computers that were so
delicate, I wondered why they even bothered to go there especially
considering how expensive that equipment is.
Isaac
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Fogarty" <si...@blinky-net.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:19 AM
Subject: RE: blue tooth on iPad
I'm after a blue tooth headset ha t only goes on one ear. That
allows
me to listen and walk at the same time as well as listening to my
environment as well.
But for some reasn the blueant v1 doesn't work on the iPad or at
least in ios 3.2.
-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lane
Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2010 5:31 a.m.
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: blue tooth on iPad
Hi, Yeh the iPad and iPhone 4 use a micro SIM, everything else in
the
world uses mini SIM. They are exactly the same internal
configuration but the micro loses the plastic surround making it
considerably smaller. If you are daring enough you can cut any mini
SIM down to micro SIM size. Anyway to answer the question about
bluetooth, I use a Nokia BH905. Its a headset style over the head
arrangement and supports A2DP and AVRC as well as standard headset
protocols. Its a really nice headset with noise cancelling, a
beautiful design and feels very solid. Unfortunately the iPhone and
iPad don't support AVRC for remote control of
play/pause/forward/backward. which is a pain but the biggest issue
on
the iPhone iPad and iPod is the resolution of the bluetooth
protocol.
It hasn't been complained about very much so I asume that most
people
don't notice.
I
don't have any measurements but i'd guess A2DP on the i devices is
limitted to only 12KHz, maybe 16 but certainly not 22 or 44. Music
through all bluetooth headphones that I've heard is tinny and
limited
in trebble.
It isn't a limitation of the bluetooth protocol as if I pair them
with my Nokia N86 or N95 they sound spectacular. I was really
hoping
Apple would address this issue in IOS 4 but I guess they haven't had
enough complaints about it yet. Its very annoying though as I
have a
beautiful sounding headset crippled by apples drivers. In summary
though the BH905 will do exactly what you want, they are solid and
sound wonderful as long as you don't mind losing a little trebble.
Simon Fogarty wrote:
Hi Mac people,
I've just splashed out and got the iPad, great toy after shaving a
sim card down to fit the micro slot, and being able to get internet
access outside of my work and home.
However, I have a Bluetooth headset, a blue ant V1, but the iPad
wont pick up on it when trying to pair them both.
Is this normal, I would have thought the blue ant devices were
pretty common devices.
If this one wont work, is there anything that is recommended for
the
Bluetooth connectivity on the iPad?
I want to be able to skype from it.
Cheers
Simon f
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