I do use the vo commands to get to the desktop a I see no other way of doing it and most of the time I have about 9 apps open at one so I just want to get there rather then command tab. On Jun 3, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Hello Carolyn, > > VoiceOver is already integrated into the OS and all the standard Mac commands > work while VoiceOver is active. > > I don't think sighted users would appreciate VoiceOver being active all the > time. Many people turn VO on by accident and get very annoyed with it. If all > VO commands were available at all times, people would use the commands > unintentionally even more often. > > I tend to use standard Mac keyboard shortcuts whenever they're available. I > don't think I've ever used the VO commands to go to the Dock or to the > Desktop. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On Jun 3, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Carolyn wrote: > >> Erik: >> Are you saying they could integrate Vo into the OS so that more commands are >> universal to the system? Carolyn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: erik burggraaf >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 5:43 AM >> Subject: Re: Getting Out of the Box on the Mac >> >> >> Well, actually, there are a huge array of mac operating system keys that >> have been replaced by voiceover keys, or at least supplanted. Most of these >> don't require the control key, so you are not limitted to the left hand. I >> quite honestly wish voiceover would drop a lot of it's baggage and teach mac >> OS more through it's help system. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> User support consultant, >> Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> Toll-free: 888-255-5194 >> >> On 2010-06-02, at 7:33 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: >> >>> I've also found my self playing finger twister with the left hand. If I >>> could find any faults with VO it would be that there are often two many >>> keys included in keyboard combinations, but I suppose there's no help for >>> it. LOL!!! >>> On Jun 2, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Carolyn wrote: >>> >>>> Erik: >>>> Thanks for this, even though it was in response to Mark. I've wondered >>>> about but been afraid to mess with Cursor wrapping. >>>> I've also often wished I had 6 or 8 fingers on my left hand!:) >>>> TC >>>> >>>> Carolyn >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: erik burggraaf >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 3:05 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Getting Out of the Box on the Mac >>>> >>>> Hi Mark, The elegant way to do this is to check the box to rap the >>>> voiceover curser. Then when you reach the bottom or end of a dialog box, >>>> pressing vo right arrow will take you right back to the top. Similarly, >>>> if you are at the top, pressing vo left arrow will take you to the bottom. >>>> >>>> The inelegant way to do this is by pressing... are you ready for this? >>>> Control, option, shift, fn, left arrow to go to the top, >>>> and Control, option, shift, fn, right arrow to go to the bottom. >>>> See I knew you werent' ready. Don't try to finess this, just mash down >>>> the whole bottom left of your keyboard pretty much and giver with the >>>> arrow keys. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps, >>>> >>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>> User support consultant, >>>> Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>>> Toll-free: 888-255-5194 >>>> >>>> On 2010-06-02, at 4:43 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> OK, so I'm interacting with elements in the VoiceOver Dialog Box. >>>>> Eventually, my VoiceOver cursor lands on the Help button at the lower >>>>> right >>>>> of the Dialog Box. >>>>> >>>>> Until now, I have to continuously press VoiceOver Left-Arrow until I >>>>> reach a >>>>> place, like a Tab, where I can stop interacting with the current area. >>>>> That >>>>> is to say, I cannot stop interacting when I first land on the Help >>>>> button. >>>>> >>>>> So, my question: >>>>> >>>>> Is there a way to stop interacting or immediately jump back up to the >>>>> beginning of a Dialog Box with VoiceOver? >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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