Hi, Couldn't agree more with this Erik. One can look at a screenreader in terms of usability metrics, and this, I'm afraid, is one area where VO falls down. Mind you, there are so many areas where it is superb that I'm probably being particularly picky. *smile*
Cheers Dónal -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: 03 June 2010 12:44 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Getting Out of the Box on the Mac Well, actually, there are a huge array of mac operating system keys that have been replaced by voiceover keys, or at least supplanted. Most of these don't require the control key, so you are not limitted to the left hand. I quite honestly wish voiceover would drop a lot of it's baggage and teach mac OS more through it's help system. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com Toll-free: 888-255-5194 On 2010-06-02, at 7:33 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > I've also found my self playing finger twister with the left hand. If I could find any faults with VO it would be that there are often two many keys included in keyboard combinations, but I suppose there's no help for it. LOL!!! > On Jun 2, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Carolyn wrote: > >> Erik: >> Thanks for this, even though it was in response to Mark. I've wondered about but been afraid to mess with Cursor wrapping. >> I've also often wished I had 6 or 8 fingers on my left hand!:) >> TC >> >> Carolyn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: erik burggraaf >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 3:05 PM >> Subject: Re: Getting Out of the Box on the Mac >> >> Hi Mark, The elegant way to do this is to check the box to rap the voiceover curser. Then when you reach the bottom or end of a dialog box, pressing vo right arrow will take you right back to the top. Similarly, if you are at the top, pressing vo left arrow will take you to the bottom. >> >> The inelegant way to do this is by pressing... are you ready for this? >> Control, option, shift, fn, left arrow to go to the top, >> and Control, option, shift, fn, right arrow to go to the bottom. >> See I knew you werent' ready. Don't try to finess this, just mash down the whole bottom left of your keyboard pretty much and giver with the arrow keys. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> User support consultant, >> Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> Toll-free: 888-255-5194 >> >> On 2010-06-02, at 4:43 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> OK, so I'm interacting with elements in the VoiceOver Dialog Box. >>> Eventually, my VoiceOver cursor lands on the Help button at the lower right >>> of the Dialog Box. >>> >>> Until now, I have to continuously press VoiceOver Left-Arrow until I reach a >>> place, like a Tab, where I can stop interacting with the current area. That >>> is to say, I cannot stop interacting when I first land on the Help button. >>> >>> So, my question: >>> >>> Is there a way to stop interacting or immediately jump back up to the >>> beginning of a Dialog Box with VoiceOver? >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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