I haven't played much with the different ones, but I'll sure try them further.

Thanks
Carolyn
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anne Robertson 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 3:06 PM
  Subject: Re: mail settings?


  Hello Carolyn,

  You say you find Alex hard to understand, have you tried changing the voice? 
You might prefer Fred, for instance. I use Fred as I find him to be much more 
accurate than Alex.

  Cheers,

  Anne


  On May 13, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Carolyn wrote:

  > Hi Olivia:
  > One to one is going well.  I'm having a little trouble though because we 
are learning in a very noisy setting, and with my hearing loss, it's sometimes 
hard to hear and interact with the trainer and dear Alex.  But we are making 
progress, and the more I work with the mac and find my questions, the easier it 
is for my trainer to help me solve things.   
  > I also find Jaws a little clearer of pronunciation than Alex.  Somehow, the 
Mac speech seems just a little more primitive.  For example, the word "thanks" 
,swhen taken by itself sounds almost more like a noise to me.  But, of course, 
that could be a quirk of my hearing.<grin>
  > 
  > In today's session, she taught me how to show date received within the 
collumns, but she hasn't been able to make the "sort by date received" stay 
that way.  So, each time I open Mail, I have to go into view and check it 
again.  We also worked on how to work with mail rules, such as landing mail 
from certain people in certain mailboxes.  
  > I'm planning to work more exclusively with the Mac this week, so I can ask 
more specific questions.
  > Thanks for asking.
  > 
  > Carolyn
  > n May 13, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Olivia Norman wrote:
  > 
  >> How's your one on one training going?
  >> I have heard mixed reviews from consumers using VO, and am curious.
  >> On May 13, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Carolyn wrote:
  >> 
  >>> Hi Olivia:
  >>> I go to view under menu.  Arrowing down, there is a sort-by submenu.  
Wish I could get it to stick, though.  I'm still wondering about the 
shift-backslash Sarah talked about.
  >>> 
  >>> Well, off to the Apple store.  Perhaps I can bring back some useful 
tidbits?:)
  >>> Carolyn
  >>> ----- Original Message -----
  >>> From: Olivia Norman
  >>> To: list voiceover
  >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:47 PM
  >>> Subject: Re: mail settings?
  >>> 
  >>> How do you even sort messages by date?
  >>> You are ahead of me :)
  >>> On May 12, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
  >>> 
  >>>> Are you pressing vo shift backslash on the colomn yo want to sort by?
  >>>> 
  >>>> Take care.
  >>>> 
  >>>> S
  >>>> On May 12, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Carolyn wrote:
  >>>> 
  >>>>> Hi:
  >>>>> I learned to sort messages by date received, (my preference) while in 
my training session.  But, that setting doesn't stick when I exit mail.  They 
then seem to sort by alphabet, or sometimes by thread.  Is there a more 
permanent way to have them sort by date?  Guess I'm too impatient to wait for 
my next session to find out<grin>
  >>>>> TIA
  >>>>> Carolyn
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