Hello Carolyn,

You say you find Alex hard to understand, have you tried changing the voice? 
You might prefer Fred, for instance. I use Fred as I find him to be much more 
accurate than Alex.

Cheers,

Anne


On May 13, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> Hi Olivia:
> One to one is going well.  I'm having a little trouble though because we are 
> learning in a very noisy setting, and with my hearing loss, it's sometimes 
> hard to hear and interact with the trainer and dear Alex.  But we are making 
> progress, and the more I work with the mac and find my questions, the easier 
> it is for my trainer to help me solve things.   
> I also find Jaws a little clearer of pronunciation than Alex.  Somehow, the 
> Mac speech seems just a little more primitive.  For example, the word 
> "thanks" ,swhen taken by itself sounds almost more like a noise to me.  But, 
> of course, that could be a quirk of my hearing.<grin>
> 
> In today's session, she taught me how to show date received within the 
> collumns, but she hasn't been able to make the "sort by date received" stay 
> that way.  So, each time I open Mail, I have to go into view and check it 
> again.  We also worked on how to work with mail rules, such as landing mail 
> from certain people in certain mailboxes.  
> I'm planning to work more exclusively with the Mac this week, so I can ask 
> more specific questions.
> Thanks for asking.
> 
> Carolyn
> n May 13, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Olivia Norman wrote:
> 
>> How's your one on one training going?
>> I have heard mixed reviews from consumers using VO, and am curious.
>> On May 13, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Carolyn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Olivia:
>>> I go to view under menu.  Arrowing down, there is a sort-by submenu.  Wish 
>>> I could get it to stick, though.  I'm still wondering about the 
>>> shift-backslash Sarah talked about.
>>> 
>>> Well, off to the Apple store.  Perhaps I can bring back some useful 
>>> tidbits?:)
>>> Carolyn
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Olivia Norman
>>> To: list voiceover
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: mail settings?
>>> 
>>> How do you even sort messages by date?
>>> You are ahead of me :)
>>> On May 12, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Are you pressing vo shift backslash on the colomn yo want to sort by?
>>>> 
>>>> Take care.
>>>> 
>>>> S
>>>> On May 12, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Carolyn wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi:
>>>>> I learned to sort messages by date received, (my preference) while in my 
>>>>> training session.  But, that setting doesn't stick when I exit mail.  
>>>>> They then seem to sort by alphabet, or sometimes by thread.  Is there a 
>>>>> more permanent way to have them sort by date?  Guess I'm too impatient to 
>>>>> wait for my next session to find out<grin>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Carolyn
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