V G A is the port that monitors use to connect to a pc the older connector
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran
Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2010 4:26 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?

Hi,
I don't see a VGA port on my TV, but I don't know what one looks like. I'll
probably end up trying both cables, chances are one will work.
The TV I have isn't an HD TV it's one of those DVD player/TV combos.
Thanks,
Courtney
On 11/05/2010, at 12:19 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Right, if you have real DVI or HDMI hookups you should use those. But
depending on the TV vintage it might only have VGA. Actually, I thought
component (3 separate connectors) was a step above composite (usually one
connector).
> 
> CB
> 
> Bryan Smart wrote:
>> But VGA will be low quality video. If you have an HD television, you
won't get HD signal that way.
>> 
>> Use HDMI first. If you can't use that, then use VGA, then composite, and
finally component video (the worst).
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:03 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
>> 
>> Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days.
If that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the
converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have
SVideo these days. All the cables come with it.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> Courtney Curran wrote: 
>>    This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old,
does this matter?     Thanks,     Courtney
>>        On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>        It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' the
mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple
dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many
people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini?
Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI
to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is
a VGA display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on.
Whether you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll
probably want the VGA hook up anyway.
>>                So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs
the Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20
>>                http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
>>                or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30
>>                http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
>>                I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with
the cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a
cheap one which runs off the USB power for $30 here:
>>                http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp
>>                Hope this helps.
>>                CB
>>                Bryan Smart wrote: 
>>            If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and
repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I
know that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so
there is no reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and
over again. We literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week.
>>                        No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right
without a monitor.
>>                        Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say
that they're "busy, busy, busy, busy".
>>                        No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it
that will fake a monitor being attached.
>>                        No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable
computer.
>>                        No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this
in the future, as far as we know.
>>                        Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people
assume, like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could
know without asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time.
>>                        Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this
list?
>>                        Bryan
>>                        -----Original Message-----
>>            From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack
>>            Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM
>>            To: MacVisionaries
>>            Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
>>                        A couple points to note here:
>>                        Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that
new members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous
threads, unless they have no social life and sit and read every message
dated back to the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this
product line that draws the to the assumption that the computer is "mini"
enough to be portable. Consider that not everyone is as informed as you.
Okay?
>>                        For the sake of this thread, and the notion that
Ben may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose -
what if an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no
display was actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA
adapter (if one such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable
that receives RCA-in? Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head.
>>                        romack
>>                        www.justinromack.com
<http://www.justinromack.com/>             twitter.com/justinromack
>>                        On May 6, 8:00 am, "Neil James" <nei...@gmail.com>
<mailto:nei...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>              
>>                Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, perhaps you
wouldn't                 have been so quick to fly off the handle? The
question was if there                 exists a portable monitor not how
portable the mini is. To answer the                 original question
though, the smallest monitor I have come across, was                 a
screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it isn't exactly a portable
monitor.
>>                                Neil
>>
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>>                From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" <bmustillr...@gmail.com>
<mailto:bmustillr...@gmail.com>                 To:
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM
>>                Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
>>                                    
>>                    Not portable in the sense that you could carry it to
work.
>>                    How many times do we have to say to people that a mini
is not portable?
>>                          
>>                    On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran
<moopiecur...@gmail.com> <mailto:moopiecur...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>                          
>>                        Hi,
>>                        Since a new Mack mini apparently must have a
monitor, are there any                         portable monitors like USB
monitors or something. I take my Mack                         mini to work a
lot.
>>                        I'm not using any monitor now, Safari seems busy a
lot, but is                         still very functional.
>>                        Thanks,
>>                        Courtney
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