But VGA will be low quality video. If you have an HD television, you won't get 
HD signal that way.

Use HDMI first. If you can't use that, then use VGA, then composite, and 
finally component video (the worst).

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:03 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?

Since your TV is kind of new it might have VGA inputs. Some do now days. If 
that's the case you can skip the VGA to NTSC converter box. If not, the 
converter has both RCA and SVideo (4-pin cable) outputs. Most TVs have SVideo 
these days. All the cables come with it.

CB

Courtney Curran wrote: 

        This could be a dumb question, but my Tv's about 2 or 3 years old, does 
this matter? 
        Thanks, 
        Courtney
        
        On 07/05/2010, at 3:01 in the Afternoon, Chris Blouch wrote:


                It used to be that you could use a mini-DVI to NTSC to 'trick' 
the mini into thinking there was a monitor but that stopped working when Apple 
dropped the analog signals from their DVI implementation. Really, how many 
people still had ntsc or pal TVs and were going to hook them up to a mini? 
Well, I'm one of them so the best I could figure out was to get the miniDVI to 
VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC converter. Now my mini thinks there is a VGA 
display hooked up all the time, whether or not the TV is actually on. Whether 
you come out ahead cost wise doing this is another thing, but you'll probably 
want the VGA hook up anyway.
                
                So depending on which Mini you have you'll either needs the 
Apple Mini DVI to VGA adapter for $20
                
                http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9320G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
                
                or the Apple DisplayPort to VGA adapter for $30
                
                http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
                
                I think newer Minis come with both so you could go with the 
cheaper MiniDVI to VGA adapter and then a VGA to NTSC adapter. I found a cheap 
one which runs off the USB power for $30 here:
                
                http://sewelldirect.com/pc-to-tv.asp
                
                Hope this helps.
                
                CB
                
                Bryan Smart wrote: 

                        If there was an FAQ for this list, the frustrating and 
repetitious subject of Minis and monitors would probably be at the top. I know 
that there is no reason to assume that newbies should know this, so there is no 
reason to blast them, but it gets so old covering this over and over again. We 
literally seem to have a thread about it 2 or 3 times a week.
                        
                        No, the Mini and VoiceOver won't work right without a 
monitor.
                        
                        Yes, that's why Safari and other apps always say that 
they're "busy, busy, busy, busy".
                        
                        No, there is no adaptor that you can plug in to it that 
will fake a monitor being attached.
                        
                        No, the Mini isn't supposed to be a portable computer.
                        
                        No, Apple isn't going to do anything to fix this in the 
future, as far as we know.
                        
                        Don't feel bad, Courtney. Lots of other people assume, 
like you, that this will work. It doesn't. No way that you could know without 
asking in advance. Hope that this helps and saves time.
                        
                        Maybe this is reason #1 to start an FAQ for this list?
                        
                        Bryan
                        
                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romack
                        Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:46 PM
                        To: MacVisionaries
                        Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
                        
                        A couple points to note here:
                        
                        Ben - Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Rude, much? Consider that new 
members join this list every day, and they aren't privi to previous threads, 
unless they have no social life and sit and read every message dated back to 
the conception of this list. Apple picked a name for this product line that 
draws the to the assumption that the computer is "mini" enough to be portable. 
Consider that not everyone is as informed as you. Okay?
                        
                        For the sake of this thread, and the notion that Ben 
may explode in a fiery ball of rage with what I am about to propose - what if 
an adapter was plugged into the display port of the Mini, but no display was 
actually attached? Could one purchase some sort of VGA-to-RCA adapter (if one 
such adapter exists), and plug it into something portable that receives RCA-in? 
Just a thought from an ignorant Apple- head.
                        
                        romack
                        
                        www.justinromack.com <http://www.justinromack.com/> 
                        twitter.com/justinromack
                        
                        On May 6, 8:00 am, "Neil James" <nei...@gmail.com> 
<mailto:nei...@gmail.com>  wrote:
                          

                                Ben, if you had read the post more carefully, 
perhaps you wouldn't 
                                have been so quick to fly off the handle? The 
question was if there 
                                exists a portable monitor not how portable the 
mini is. To answer the 
                                original question though, the smallest monitor 
I have come across, was 
                                a screen size of 12 inches, so while doable, it 
isn't exactly a portable monitor.
                                
                                Neil
                                
                                
                                
                                
                                
                                ----- Original Message -----
                                From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 
<bmustillr...@gmail.com> <mailto:bmustillr...@gmail.com> 
                                To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
                                Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:45 AM
                                Subject: Re: Mack Mini and Monitor?
                                
                                    

                                        Not portable in the sense that you 
could carry it to work.
                                        How many times do we have to say to 
people that a mini is not portable?
                                              

                                        On 05/05/2010, Courtney Curran 
<moopiecur...@gmail.com> <mailto:moopiecur...@gmail.com>  wrote:
                                              

                                                Hi,
                                                Since a new Mack mini 
apparently must have a monitor, are there any 
                                                portable monitors like USB 
monitors or something. I take my Mack 
                                                mini to work a lot.
                                                I'm not using any monitor now, 
Safari seems busy a lot, but is 
                                                still very functional.
                                                Thanks,
                                                Courtney
                                                        

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