I ahave a 4 gig dool cor 2.3ghz processer with 4 gigs of ram. jaws and nvda 
studder and are so chopy it missed words and sounds like  diao up connection.
On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:

> Huh. What Mac do you have? There's clearly some problem here; I'm running it 
> fine on a Macbook Pro, 4GB RAM and my VM only has 2GB allocated to it. 
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> On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> vms though  apparently  cannot run on my mac as the speech gets very choppy. 
>> I've given it all I can and still no go.
>> 
>> Ah well. Take care.
>> 
>> S
>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:
>> 
>>> hi I can't just can't use bootcamp, I must use a vm. I am a edtech ta so i 
>>> don't to confeuze techer ed studentes. use both jfw, and windoweyes. and so 
>>> fare me it seems to work.ps please forgive my spealling I am vary tired the 
>>> end of the term is
>>> near. I am not getting much sleep.Maurice ham call kd0iko.On Apr 20, 2010, 
>>> at 10:51 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You can set up a bootcamp partition so you can use all of yoru system 
>>>> specks.  that is what I did and it works well. vmwhare chokes on my system 
>>>> so can't use it.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care.
>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:09 PM, olivia norman wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This is very helpful information and thanks for sending!  I'm a graduate 
>>>>> student, and I exclusively use the mac for all school work.  I mostly use 
>>>>> iWork to accomplish tasks.  The only reason I haven't installed fusion is 
>>>>> because I don't own an expensive windows screen reader, but I am 
>>>>> wondering whether this might be a good solution for an internship I will 
>>>>> be doing in the fall.  I really don't want to go back to jusing windows 
>>>>> after using my mac, so this might work well.  I suppose that purchasing 
>>>>> the expensive windows screen reader might be inevitable, but at least 
>>>>> I'll be able to use my mac! How much hard drive space would I need to run 
>>>>> fusion?
>>>>> Thank you again for this information!
>>>>> Olivia
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower",  Steve Jobs
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:23 PM, denise avant wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders office. 
>>>>>> And my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction attorney is to 
>>>>>> write briefs, with case citations.
>>>>>> I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to others 
>>>>>> about the program. I didn’t know about the snap shot.
>>>>>> So thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John J Herzog
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: the apple user?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello, 
>>>>>> As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law school, 
>>>>>> and who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I 
>>>>>> feel I can helpfully answer your questions. 
>>>>>> Forgive the length of this email. 
>>>>>> First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter 
>>>>>> nonsense. On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I use 
>>>>>> serious apps as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, 
>>>>>> allowing you to do extensive formatting of documents. Also, the preview 
>>>>>> application on the mac is one of the best PDF readers I have ever seen. 
>>>>>> The text is readable with voiceover, and there are few, if any crashes. 
>>>>>> What other screen readers can you say that about? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications 
>>>>>> not being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. 
>>>>>> However, for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called 
>>>>>> VMware fusion. Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the 
>>>>>> same time as your mac. This means that you can use whatever screen 
>>>>>> reader you like for windows and run office without a hitch. 
>>>>>> There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have 
>>>>>> configured windows just the way you want it, you can create what is 
>>>>>> known as a snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to its exact 
>>>>>> configuration at the time you took it, meaning you will always have a 
>>>>>> fresh install of windows, office, and your screen reader a click away. 
>>>>>> It's awesome, because it does a complete and utter system restore when 
>>>>>> windows decides to go south on you. For a blind person, I actually think 
>>>>>> a mac with fusion is better than a standard windows PC for this reason. 
>>>>>> Note that a fusion snapshot literally restores all files and settings to 
>>>>>> the way they were when you took it. It is much more extensive than using 
>>>>>> the built in windows system restore utility. It has saved my skin a 
>>>>>> number of times, and I will give you a perfect example. 
>>>>>> At the beginning of law school, I found it necessary to purchase a 
>>>>>> scanner with a document feeder. Previously, I had a different scanner 
>>>>>> that I was using with kurzweil 1000. Now, when I installed the twain 
>>>>>> drivers for the new scanner, after trying to unsuccessfully remove the 
>>>>>> old drivers, I found myself in a situation where neither set worked. If 
>>>>>> I had a standard windows machine, I was facing the real possibility of 
>>>>>> having to reinstall windows to get either unit to work reliably. Either 
>>>>>> that, or it was having to spend hours and hours messing with system dll 
>>>>>> files, and we all know what happens after that. 
>>>>>> So, instead, I just restored a snapshot I made of my XP machine prior to 
>>>>>> having installed either Kurzweil or the scanner software. I then 
>>>>>> installed both on what was essentially a fresh copy of windows, and all 
>>>>>> was smooth sailing from there. It saved me from endless headaches, plus 
>>>>>> the burden of having to get a sighted person to help install the screen 
>>>>>> reader again, and the time that would have been wasted in such a 
>>>>>> pursuit. 
>>>>>> I hope this helps answer your questions. 
>>>>>> John 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> P.S. If you go to www.blindcooltech.com, you can find some excellent 
>>>>>> demos of the macintosh by Mike Arigo. He even shows how fusion and 
>>>>>> voiceover work, and he runs window eyes on the XP side of things. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope this helps. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:52 PM, denise avant wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> Please forgive the length of this message.
>>>>>> In researching the issue of whether to purchase an apple mac or not, 
>>>>>> I’ve come across a few people who have expressed criticism if not 
>>>>>> concern about the mac computers themselves. I own the iphone, and have 
>>>>>> enjoyed it tremendously. I’ve been able to do things with the phone I 
>>>>>> was never able to do with other phones. The only problem I still have is 
>>>>>> putting in extensions and account numbers once the number is connected.
>>>>>> But having said this, I seriously doubt whether I will ever buy another 
>>>>>> phone, where I don’t have accessibility built in.
>>>>>> There is an applestoe here in Chicago, and when I’ve had any problem of 
>>>>>> any kind, the sales staff has been very easy to deal with.
>>>>>> Even when I call on the telephone, I find a very friendly staff.
>>>>>> I have my own personal sales representative since I have mac book pro on 
>>>>>> the drawing board.
>>>>>> What I enjoy most of all, is that I can go to an appelstore, and with 
>>>>>> the exception of a couple of products, there is accessibility right out 
>>>>>> of the box, with no extra costs or smas to worry about.
>>>>>> I’m seeking opinions from those of you who use these computers with 
>>>>>> voice over. The biggest criticism I’ve heard that if you’re conducting a 
>>>>>> business or doing a serious project, the mac is not for the blind user. 
>>>>>> This apparently has to do with the fact that the office aps are not 
>>>>>> accessible with vo, and iwork9 acts strangely sometimes.
>>>>>> Basically, one person, who doesn’t use the mac, but is familiar with the 
>>>>>> product line, told me that the operating system was those who wanted to 
>>>>>> “play.”
>>>>>> Can those you have used the macbooks or other appel operating systems 
>>>>>> address these issues. Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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