vms though apparently cannot run on my mac as the speech gets very choppy. I've given it all I can and still no go.
Ah well. Take care. S On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Maurice Mines wrote: > hi I can't just can't use bootcamp, I must use a vm. I am a edtech ta so i > don't to confeuze techer ed studentes. use both jfw, and windoweyes. and so > fare me it seems to work.ps please forgive my spealling I am vary tired the > end of the term is > near. I am not getting much sleep.Maurice ham call kd0iko.On Apr 20, 2010, at > 10:51 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> You can set up a bootcamp partition so you can use all of yoru system >> specks. that is what I did and it works well. vmwhare chokes on my system >> so can't use it. >> >> Take care. >> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:09 PM, olivia norman wrote: >> >>> This is very helpful information and thanks for sending! I'm a graduate >>> student, and I exclusively use the mac for all school work. I mostly use >>> iWork to accomplish tasks. The only reason I haven't installed fusion is >>> because I don't own an expensive windows screen reader, but I am wondering >>> whether this might be a good solution for an internship I will be doing in >>> the fall. I really don't want to go back to jusing windows after using my >>> mac, so this might work well. I suppose that purchasing the expensive >>> windows screen reader might be inevitable, but at least I'll be able to use >>> my mac! How much hard drive space would I need to run fusion? >>> Thank you again for this information! >>> Olivia >>> >>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower", Steve Jobs >>> >>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:23 PM, denise avant wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Yes. Particularly since I am a lawyer with the public defenders office. >>>> And my primary role as an appellate and post-conviction attorney is to >>>> write briefs, with case citations. >>>> I knew about the fusion program, as I have spent time talking to others >>>> about the program. I didn’t know about the snap shot. >>>> So thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John J Herzog >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:14 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: the apple user? >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> As a macbook user, who has to write substantial papers for law school, and >>>> who has used his computer at a summer internship with Pepsico, I feel I >>>> can helpfully answer your questions. >>>> Forgive the length of this email. >>>> First, the idea that macs are only play toys is complete and utter >>>> nonsense. On my mac, I do use the apps like Itunes and Ichat, but I use >>>> serious apps as well. Iwork is quite accessible, as is text edit, allowing >>>> you to do extensive formatting of documents. Also, the preview application >>>> on the mac is one of the best PDF readers I have ever seen. The text is >>>> readable with voiceover, and there are few, if any crashes. What other >>>> screen readers can you say that about? >>>> >>>> Next, I will address your concern about microsoft office applications not >>>> being accessible. It is true that they do not work with voiceover. >>>> However, for about seventy dollars, you can pick up a program called >>>> VMware fusion. Fusion allows you to install windows and run it at the same >>>> time as your mac. This means that you can use whatever screen reader you >>>> like for windows and run office without a hitch. >>>> There is one more upside to running fusion on mac. After you have >>>> configured windows just the way you want it, you can create what is known >>>> as a snapshot. The snapshot will restore your system to its exact >>>> configuration at the time you took it, meaning you will always have a >>>> fresh install of windows, office, and your screen reader a click away. >>>> It's awesome, because it does a complete and utter system restore when >>>> windows decides to go south on you. For a blind person, I actually think a >>>> mac with fusion is better than a standard windows PC for this reason. Note >>>> that a fusion snapshot literally restores all files and settings to the >>>> way they were when you took it. It is much more extensive than using the >>>> built in windows system restore utility. It has saved my skin a number of >>>> times, and I will give you a perfect example. >>>> At the beginning of law school, I found it necessary to purchase a scanner >>>> with a document feeder. Previously, I had a different scanner that I was >>>> using with kurzweil 1000. Now, when I installed the twain drivers for the >>>> new scanner, after trying to unsuccessfully remove the old drivers, I >>>> found myself in a situation where neither set worked. If I had a standard >>>> windows machine, I was facing the real possibility of having to reinstall >>>> windows to get either unit to work reliably. Either that, or it was having >>>> to spend hours and hours messing with system dll files, and we all know >>>> what happens after that. >>>> So, instead, I just restored a snapshot I made of my XP machine prior to >>>> having installed either Kurzweil or the scanner software. I then installed >>>> both on what was essentially a fresh copy of windows, and all was smooth >>>> sailing from there. It saved me from endless headaches, plus the burden of >>>> having to get a sighted person to help install the screen reader again, >>>> and the time that would have been wasted in such a pursuit. >>>> I hope this helps answer your questions. >>>> John >>>> >>>> P.S. If you go to www.blindcooltech.com, you can find some excellent demos >>>> of the macintosh by Mike Arigo. He even shows how fusion and voiceover >>>> work, and he runs window eyes on the XP side of things. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:52 PM, denise avant wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> Please forgive the length of this message. >>>> In researching the issue of whether to purchase an apple mac or not, I’ve >>>> come across a few people who have expressed criticism if not concern about >>>> the mac computers themselves. I own the iphone, and have enjoyed it >>>> tremendously. I’ve been able to do things with the phone I was never able >>>> to do with other phones. The only problem I still have is putting in >>>> extensions and account numbers once the number is connected. >>>> But having said this, I seriously doubt whether I will ever buy another >>>> phone, where I don’t have accessibility built in. >>>> There is an applestoe here in Chicago, and when I’ve had any problem of >>>> any kind, the sales staff has been very easy to deal with. >>>> Even when I call on the telephone, I find a very friendly staff. >>>> I have my own personal sales representative since I have mac book pro on >>>> the drawing board. >>>> What I enjoy most of all, is that I can go to an appelstore, and with the >>>> exception of a couple of products, there is accessibility right out of the >>>> box, with no extra costs or smas to worry about. >>>> I’m seeking opinions from those of you who use these computers with voice >>>> over. The biggest criticism I’ve heard that if you’re conducting a >>>> business or doing a serious project, the mac is not for the blind user. >>>> This apparently has to do with the fact that the office aps are not >>>> accessible with vo, and iwork9 acts strangely sometimes. >>>> Basically, one person, who doesn’t use the mac, but is familiar with the >>>> product line, told me that the operating system was those who wanted to >>>> “play.” >>>> Can those you have used the macbooks or other appel operating systems >>>> address these issues. 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