Don’t use something for how it should be, accessibility especially. Android is a great example. Very open, for mobile standards, but still missing VoiceOver quality and consistency. Not to say Android can’t be used; I used it for five months, with tools I vibe coded into shape. Nothing fancy, just Termux, Emacs with Emacspeak, had codex within Termux fix stuff up, all that. But then I wound up using Emacs more than Android itself. And then something broke, depression kicked in, and I went wailing back to Apple. My point being that if the Mac doesn’t work for you, and Apple doesn’t prioritize it, then you don’t have to use it. Linux even shows files on your iPhone in its file manager (true for Fedora 44 Mate desktop anyway).
> On Jun 12, 2026, at 8:02 AM, Krishnakant Mane <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is another major concern for me and more so with Apple OS. > I came to apple with the understanding and supposition that things are very > consistent because there is central authority and only one single source of > engineering decisions on top of an already robust os (Unix ). > So unlike Linux which is open source and has many flavours (AKA distros ) > where many branches of authority exist and unlike Windows where the > architecture itself is flawed, Mac should be very consistent in experiences. > But I think it is much worst then what people imagine. > In fact I have started contemplating going back to the wonderful world of > Orca and Linux. > Perhaps I will add a virtual machine on Mac and use almost all resources. > I love the hardware, it’s durability and the M series processors with system > on chip which gives great performance, but the OS is far from being > satisfactory even below the open source quality as far as accessibility is > concerned. > Again, if someone is facing a major bug it should have been consistent or at > least near consistent, and if some thing is really working great, it should > be almost as good with others, but now I see my supposition, although > logically correct given the way Mac OS is developed is in practice totally > wrong. > Regards. > >> On 12 Jun 2026, at 6:05 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Krishna, >> >> I pretty much always close my pages, and I get the image thing nine times >> out of ten. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >> >>> On Jun 12, 2026, at 7:29 AM, Krishnakant Mane <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> With the Safari bug it is not as bad. >>> I don’t hear the image, but yes some times when I directly close my browser >>> without closing the pages first, all my pages open when I launch Safari >>> next time. And this is the time when I have to escape away from the tool >>> bar which is rather irritating, but I always get to the page structure an >>> and not image. >>> Regards. >>> >>>> On 12 Jun 2026, at 5:54 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Brad, >>>> >>>> I do get the Accessibility server has no Windows message often when >>>> restarting my Mac. It goes away, but I’ve always thought it odd. >>>> >>>> I have my Safari set to a homepage, so there is no need for me to be in >>>> the toolbar at all, but I almost always end up there. Then I stop >>>> interacting, arrow over to the page, and VO says Image. I then have to use >>>> one of the strategies I described earlier to view the page. So, any time >>>> I open a page, I have to implement four or five keystrokes before I can >>>> even start viewing the page. It gets old fast. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 11, 2026, at 11:58 PM, 'Bradford Snyder' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I used to get the "Accessibility UIServer has no windows" sometimes" >>>>> in macOS Sequoia, but can’t remember ever getting this in Tahoe. >>>>> >>>>> When opening Safari, I have mine set to open to an empty page, with focus >>>>> on the address edit field, which is of course in the Toolbar. >>>>> Since this is expected behavior, I have never considered this a bug. >>>>> >>>>> - Brad - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 11, 2026, at 08:34, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Here are a couple bugs for you. >>>>> >>>>> "Accessibility UIServer has no windows" >>>>> This is random,usually after booting up but happens other times too. >>>>> >>>>> Another bug... >>>>> When Safari is launched, automatically is interacted in toolbar. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent >>>>> revolution inevitable." >>>>> -John F. Kennedy >>>>> My e-Mail: >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> *-* *-* *-* *-* >>>>> >>>>> On 6/10/2026 10:20 PM, 'Bradford Snyder' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>> Can't say I'm experiencing either. >>>>>> Like I said, I think it's been an extremely stable release. Just hoping >>>>>> they don't screw anything up with macOS 27. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Brad - >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 10, 2026, at 22:26, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Stable is not an issue. Bugs in Voiceover and Finder. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent >>>>>> revolution inevitable." >>>>>> -John F. Kennedy >>>>>> My e-Mail: >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> *-* *-* *-* *-* >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/10/2026 6:30 PM, 'Brad Snyder' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>>> Not sure what old issues you are experiencing. >>>>>>> I have found macOS Tahoe to be remarkably stable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2026, at 19:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have not seen any new issues but some old ones remain. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent >>>>>>>> revolution inevitable." >>>>>>>> -John F. 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