Thanks all for the thoughts. The issue persists yet again today. My System Default is not the builtin Macbook speaker, though that's the device I assign for Voice Over via it's utility. For the record my default is set to a pair of wired JBL speakers via an Sennheiser DAC . That's perfect for YouTube, for Apple Music listening and Logic Pro editing, but overkill for Voice Over.
Furthermore, the Mac hasn't moved off it's customary desk location in my office in days. It's sitting in its usual spot connected via cable to its usual docking device. The behavior I'm complaining of iss something new that hasn't been happening heretofore, though the device situation is essentially unchanged over a couple years now. When I take my Macbook off the dock and the desk, all output is promptly switched to the internal Macbook speakers--as it should be. When I return it to the dock (via USB-C cabling) the System Default immediately reverts to the Sennheiser, but Voice Over properly stays with the builtin speakers. The problem only occurs overnight. Best, Janina 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries writes: > So would the underlying issue then be that the preferred output device is > becoming unavailable to the system overnight? Perhaps this is related to how > sleep/suspend mode is handled. It might even be hardware-specific to the > output device. > > I agree that switching VoiceOver to the default system audio device if the > specified audio output becomes unavailable to the system is desirable in > general. On the other hand, devices which are continuously connected > shouldn???t just disappear from the system???s list of available outputs > while it???s in sleep mode. > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on > behalf of Bradford Snyder <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2025 at 10:38 > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Unintended Reset > > This sounds more like a feature than a bug. > > If you change your VoiceOver output device to something other than the system > default output, and that device is no longer present, then you have no way to > hear VoiceOver output. > So, if your Mac determines that the selected device for VoiceOver output is > no longer present, then to make sure that VoiceOver can be heard, VoiceOver > may be automatically changing back to the default system output, which would > most likely be your internal MacBook Air???s speakers. > > To me, this would be preferred to having no output for VoiceOver. > > Rather than changing your VoiceOver output device to something other than the > default system output, I would recommend changing the default system output > device. then when that device is not present, the default system output will > default to the internal MacBook Air speaker. > Once the alternative system output device is once again present, the system > default output will revert to that alternative device, and VoiceOver output > will follow. > > - Brad - > > > > On May 27, 2025, at 03:48, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have a new annoyance on my Macbook Air. Sometime in the overnight hours > the audio device assigned to Voice Over via the Sound Tab in Voice Over > Utility is being reset to the System Default audio device. Every morning I > reset it back to my preferred device. > > Am I missing something? 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