Hi, Heh. SO much for bashing bashers!
No one is bashing here, by the way. An opinion is an opinion, and it is actually based on the lack of research prior to the article in December, rather than the entire NFB organization. Besides, everyone is permitted to state their own opinion as they have them, regardless if it favors an organization you like or not. And even if that opinion happens to state that they dislike the organization for bad reviews, that's no need for calling anyone a basher. I don't really care if you were indirectly calling me a basher, or anyone else agreeing with my previous statements. That's entirely irrelevant. However, what belongs here is the discussion of Apple products. The reason I got my Macbook was actually that review in June, so I do listen. :) I tend not to take reviews at face value, nor should anyone. They can help you get a starting point, but they can't really help you decide. Anyway, that's my last reply. Back to happy Appleish times. Gosh, the traffic on this one. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Rich Ring wrote: > Thank you so much. NFB actually published an article in the October Moniter > written by a Mac user, Steve Sawczyn, which indirectly presented a more > favorable point of view, then in the December Monitor, they did in fact > admit that they had made a number of mistakes. But, bashers will never let > this rest, it makes them feel better, so what can you do? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Foret jr" <rfore...@comcast.net> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:47 AM > Subject: what I think > > > > While I don't blame people here for criticizing the NFB for its initially > bad review of Apple's Voice OVer, (a criticism with which I myself agree), I > must say quite frankly that I do not appreciate continued criticism of the > NFB after they've made a good effort in the December 2009 "Braille, monitor" > to correct many of their initially incorrect statements. Besides, that's > not why I joined this list. It appears that some of you want to criticize > the NFB for an initially bad review of Voice Over; but, not acknowledge when > they admit they made quite a few substantial mistakes and openly apologized > for them in the Monitor. IF you make a mistake, you've got to be willing to > own up that you've made it and try to make good what corrections you need > to. No. The NFB is not perfect; but then again, who is? Apple? No. > Microsoft? No. Me? No. You? no. Look y'all, they made a very big set > of mistakes in their June review. Only a fool would deny that. but, let me > remind all of y'all here that in the December update, they did correct many > of their earlier statements. Okay. Maybe not all of them, but, enough of > them so that I think they deserve credit for having owned up to when they > were wrong. But, seems to me like some of y'all can't stand to acknowledge > that they did make an effort to clean up the mess they made. If that's what > this list is going to turn in to, I'm out o' here!!! But, I'd rather think, > (at least for the moment), that most of the people on this list are better > than that. I'm not saying y'all all have to become fans of the NFB. All > I'm saying is lay off. They did wrong, and, they apologized for and made an > effort to correct that wrong. To me, when you commit a wrong very publicly, > (as in the June "Braille Monitor"), and then you just as publicly apologize > for it and make efforts to correct it, (as in the December "Braille > Monitor"), you've got to frankly acknowledge that fact; and, whether you > like it or not, they did!!! Let's remember that shall we? > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!!! > > Now A Proud Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
