Hi,

Basically, sound  effects are at the same volume as the system.  So, if you 
have your volume set to 50%, then the sound effects will also be played at 50%. 
 VoiceOver has its own level that is changed with the system volume, but it 
depends on where VO volume is set to begin with.  For example, you can use the 
rotor to decrease the volume of VO in reference to the system volume.  Pressing 
VO-cmd-shift-left or right until you hear VO announce “Volume”, then keeping 
the VO-cmd-shift keys down and pressing the down or up volume will only change 
the VoiceOver volume.  Thus, you can change the VO volume to, let’s say, 40%, 
and it will not affect the sound effects or other media volumes.  Turning up or 
down the system volume will change the VO volume relative, but it will stay at 
40% of the system volume.
I hope that this makes sense.

Later…
   

Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jun 7, 2022, at 16:17, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
> 
> yes, that is exactly what I am saying.
> And  I wish to also know where system sound effects volume is managed, as I 
> dare say it differs from say voiceover volume.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If your volume is set low, then, yes, the startup chime will normally be set 
>> low as well.  Are you saying that when you restart, or startup your computer 
>> from scratch, you do not hear any startup chime?
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2022, at 15:51, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> My understanding is that this is the very last Mac os before big shore, 
>>> which   may be why the sound is missing.
>>> As i am profoundly new to all this, I want to insure I have it, was never a 
>>> windows user so all this boot time makes me crazy laughs.
>>> What about turning up the sound if needful?
>>> Kare
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> The startup chime was a computer specific item in that model of Mac.  That 
>>>> is, the startup chime should still work normally on that device without 
>>>> any intervention in System Preferences.  I’m willing to be corrected, but 
>>>> I also believe that the checkbox that they’re speaking of was not present 
>>>> in Catalina, only Big Sur and newer.
>>>> 
>>>> No, it will not make that sound upon opening the lid as it is a chime that 
>>>> is sounded as part of the boot process.  In older Macs, before it was 
>>>> removed, it doubled as kind of a system check.  If you heard that noise, 
>>>> then the hardware was OK, and it should proceed to bring up the MacOS, 
>>>> unless the drive was a problem.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH.
>>>> 
>>>> Later…
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 7, 2022, at 15:35, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> hi everyone,
>>>>> I have a mid 2012 15 inch macbook pro retina now running os 10.15.7 
>>>>> Catalina.
>>>>> I recall  the discussion about the apple start up sound being removed, 
>>>>> was told by apple accessibility that this is corrected  by accessing 
>>>>> system preferences, sound, sound effects, and making sure there is a 
>>>>> checkbox beside start up sound.
>>>>> What I do not recall though is how one insures the start up sound volume 
>>>>> is turned up,  something I want to know just in case.
>>>>> Also, if the start up sound is  provided, does it also happen when 
>>>>> awakening the mac, opening the lid?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Karen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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