Hi Patrick, Assuming you are running either macOS Big Sur or Monterey, try the following, and see if it helps:
1. Go to System Preferences > Dock & Menu Bar. 2. Navigate to the table, and interact with the table using VO + Shift + DownArrow. 3. Once you have interacted with the table, navigate to the item labeled Clock Menu Bar, and stop interacting with the table by pressing VO + Shift + UpArrow. Note: There seems to be a VoiceOver issue when navigating this table with macOS Monterey, in that labels for some table items are not spoken by VoiceOver. Instead of speaking the correct label name for some items, VoiceOver may say Empty Cell, or VoiceOver may speak a row number. In any case, the Clock Menu Bar item is the 4th row from the bottom of the table, which is row 15. 4. Once you have stoped interacting with the table, navigate using VO + RightArrow, until you hear VoiceOver speak Clock, and then Date Options, which is followed by several items, that can be selected or unselected to suit your preferences. 5. Once you have made your selection, close the System Preferences window, and you are done. HTH. - Brad - On Nov 18, 2021, at 05:52, Patrick Ford <xplorer1...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, In the clock menu of doc and menus in system preferences I cannot make any changes. As I VO right arrow to make a change to the date and time it says it is dimmed and checked and some say dimmed and unchecked. How do I make the change I wish to make? I know there is a way to have Seri just say the time without the date mentioned. Thanks. Patrick Come and See scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/83C84EBA-16A6-479D-B20C-819697F3C7A9%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/E3088D6B-C0A8-4753-A99D-813BD399E9D2%40swbell.net.