Jonathan, thank you very much. I will be using this for non-commercial stuff so 
I think VMWare Player is OK. When I setup a VM with VMWare Player do I already 
need to have an .iso of an Mac OS installer or will VMWare take care of 
downloading that for me? Interesting stipulation about selling a Mac with an 
upgraded OS. I wonder if that includes donating a Mac as I usually give away my 
old machines? Honestly I have never downgraded an OS on a Mac. I would have to 
figure out how to do that.

Thanks
Frank

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 11:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Running Mac OS as a virtual machine

If you get VMWare player you should be able to run a guest MacOS from within a 
Mac computer. I believe currently the license just says you must be running it 
on Mac hardware. If you create a VM there is an option to create a MacOS VM, 
and then you can install what ever copy of Mac OS you need. Tidbits.com had an 
article about this when the new OS did not allow 32 bit binaries to be run on 
it anymore. They gave instructions for  how to install a VM to use 32 bit 
programs in the older OS.
One license condition which I am not sure people really abide by is that if you 
sell your Mac, it should have the same OS as when you initially bought it.

Good Luck,
Jonathan


On 8/22/21, Frank Ventura <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com> wrote:
> Can you install Mac OS into a Bootcamp session? The Bootcamp utility 
> suggests it is designed for Windows. thanks
>
>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Herbie Allen <herbie.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I know you can create multiple Bootcamp sessions with the Mac, but I 
>> have never heard of Mac being ran as a Virtual Machine.
>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 03:51, Frank Ventura 
>>> <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all, back in my days of Windows server 2008 and 2012 I used to 
>>> run a host machine with two or more virtual machines (Windows) 
>>> running as guests. This kept the guest operating systems isolated 
>>> from the host OS for security reasons and sure made backups easy. I 
>>> would like to accomplish the same thing on my 2013 Mac Pro. I would 
>>> like to run one or two Mac OS guest operating systems. How can I 
>>> accomplish this? As far as I know Apple does not sell retail 
>>> licenses of the Mac OS. Am I wrong about that? I assume there are 
>>> folks  out there running the Mac OS as a virtual machine. Any help 
>>> would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
>>>
>>> Frank Ventura
>>>
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