If that is the case, then I look forward to that feature.
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 4:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files Hi, As far as I know, they’re working on that sort of thing for Monterey. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 2, 2021, at 2:26 PM, <skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > <skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: It would be nice if VoiceOver for the Mac included OCR recognition much like JAWS and NVDA. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 4:25 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files Hi John, I just went into the App Store and Abby FineReader is listed at $129. I forgot about Prizmo, so will also check that out. I may just stay with Windows for this task. Best Regards, Les On Jul 2, 2021, at 3:58 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com> > wrote: Abby FineReader Pro is only $99 and Prizmo is somewhere around $69.00. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Jul 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, <skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > <skipper8...@gmail.com <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: Lack of an inexpensive OCR app for the Mac is why I will always use both Windows and Mac. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 3:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files Hi Tim, related to accessing PDFs on a Mac, using the PDF pen that you mentioned, can you efficiently and successfully navigate tables and click on links that take you to websites or elsewhere within a PDF document? I am not using a Mac presently. One of the reasons I reluctantly went to windows 10 was because I was unable to find an efficient way of dealing with these kinds of PDF files. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:37 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Hi, Yes, Adobe is a subscription model. There’s both PDFPen and PDFPen Pro. PEFPen is not as feature full, but has the OCR, is very accessible and a really good package. No, neither are free, but the Pro version is more expensive and probably has more features than you might need. There are likely other packages out there to do the job, but this package has worked well for me. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:26 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi Tim, I did a search for a PDF pen but could not find it. I found PDF pen Pro but I don’t think I want that one. I just need something they can extract text and $80 doesn’t seem like a good idea for that. Can you suggest we are PDF and maybe located? I hope they still offer it. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2021, at 12:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Hi, Yes, acrobat is accessible, although I do find it rather cumbersome to maneuver through. PDFPen or PDFPen Pro are much more voiceover friendly and that's much easier to use. Neither are free though. Later… Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2021, at 9:26 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi Tim, Yes, I did enable recognition. It read some gibberish, very little, though. I take it Acrobat works on the Mac? On my Windows machine, I have the Reader, and I used fJaws to extract text. If I recall, Acrobat Pro was a subscription service, but I could be mistaken. PDF Pen is a program I am not familiar with, but I’ll check it out. Thanks. Best Regards, Les On Jul 2, 2021, at 11:02 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Hi, Did you make sure that VoiceOver Recognition was enabled within the VO Utility? If that is enabled, you should, at least, get VoiceOver to announce that it is a document with text on it. Otherwise, apps like Acrobat DC or PDFPen can do the OCR for you. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 2, 2021, at 6:17 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi Tim, I followed your instructions. When I invoked the text recognition command, it reported no image description available. Was the Full N an app? Does this mean I can perform OCR on a pdf as can be done with Acrobat? Actually, in Windows, I used the Jaws facility to extract text that was identified as an empty document. My work space may not accommodate a scanner, so I would like to use software in these instances. Thanks. Best, Les On Jul 1, 2021, at 4:10 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Hi, Normally, you navigate to the Document area, interact with it, then if it has multiple pages, they will be listed. Interact with the page you wish to read and the text will be read by VO. If it requires OCR, you can try pressing VO-shift-l to see if VO will read it to you. If VO-shift-l does not work, first make sure that VoiceOver Recognition is enabled in the VoiceOver Utility, then try again. If it still doesn’t work for you, you may need to use full on OCR like in Acrobat DC. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 1, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi All, I just received my first pdf file. I loaded it into Preview, but could not figure out how to access the text. Also, if it is an image, is there a way I can perform OCR on it without attaching a scanner? Is there a version of Acrobat Reader for the Mac which is worth accessing? Thank you. Best, Les -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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