Hi, As far as I know, they’re working on that sort of thing for Monterey.
Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Jul 2, 2021, at 2:26 PM, <skipper8...@gmail.com> <skipper8...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > It would be nice if VoiceOver for the Mac included OCR recognition much like > JAWS and NVDA. > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler > Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 4:25 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files > > Hi John, > I just went into the App Store and Abby FineReader is listed at $129. I > forgot about Prizmo, so will also check that out. I may just stay with > Windows for this task. > Best Regards, > > Les > > >> On Jul 2, 2021, at 3:58 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Abby FineReader Pro is only $99 and Prizmo is somewhere around $69.00. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/> >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, <skipper8...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> <skipper8...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Lack of an inexpensive OCR app for the Mac is why I will always use both >>> Windows and Mac. >>> >>> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 3:49 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: How to Best Access PDF Files >>> >>> Hi Tim, related to accessing PDFs on a Mac, using the PDF pen that you >>> mentioned, can you efficiently and successfully navigate tables and click >>> on links that take you to websites or elsewhere within a PDF document? I am >>> not using a Mac presently. One of the reasons I reluctantly went to windows >>> 10 was because I was unable to find an efficient way of dealing with these >>> kinds of PDF files. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:37 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Yes, Adobe is a subscription model. There’s both PDFPen and PDFPen Pro. >>>> PEFPen is not as feature full, but has the OCR, is very accessible and a >>>> really good package. No, neither are free, but the Pro version is more >>>> expensive and probably has more features than you might need. There are >>>> likely other packages out there to do the job, but this package has worked >>>> well for me. >>>> >>>> Later… >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>> Apple Teacher >>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:26 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>> >>>>> I did a search for a PDF pen but could not find it. I found PDF pen Pro >>>>> but I don’t think I want that one. I just need something they can extract >>>>> text and $80 doesn’t seem like a good idea for that. Can you suggest we >>>>> are PDF and maybe located? I hope they still offer it. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 12:13 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, acrobat is accessible, although I do find it rather cumbersome to >>>>>> maneuver through. PDFPen or PDFPen Pro are much more voiceover friendly >>>>>> and that's much easier to use. Neither are free though. >>>>>> >>>>>> Later… >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 9:26 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>>> Yes, I did enable recognition. It read some gibberish, very little, >>>>>>> though. I take it Acrobat works on the Mac? On my Windows machine, I >>>>>>> have the Reader, and I used fJaws to extract text. If I recall, Acrobat >>>>>>> Pro was a subscription service, but I could be mistaken. PDF Pen is a >>>>>>> program I am not familiar with, but I’ll check it out. Thanks. >>>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Les >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 11:02 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did you make sure that VoiceOver Recognition was enabled within the VO >>>>>>>> Utility? If that is enabled, you should, at least, get VoiceOver to >>>>>>>> announce that it is a document with text on it. Otherwise, apps like >>>>>>>> Acrobat DC or PDFPen can do the OCR for you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 6:17 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>>>>> I followed your instructions. When I invoked the text recognition >>>>>>>>> command, it reported no image description available. Was the Full N >>>>>>>>> an app? Does this mean I can perform OCR on a pdf as can be done with >>>>>>>>> Acrobat? Actually, in Windows, I used the Jaws facility to extract >>>>>>>>> text that was identified as an empty document. My work space may not >>>>>>>>> accommodate a scanner, so I would like to use software in these >>>>>>>>> instances. Thanks. >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Les >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2021, at 4:10 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Normally, you navigate to the Document area, interact with it, then >>>>>>>>>> if it has multiple pages, they will be listed. Interact with the >>>>>>>>>> page you wish to read and the text will be read by VO. If it >>>>>>>>>> requires OCR, you can try pressing VO-shift-l to see if VO will read >>>>>>>>>> it to you. If VO-shift-l does not work, first make sure that >>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver Recognition is enabled in the VoiceOver Utility, then try >>>>>>>>>> again. If it still doesn’t work for you, you may need to use full >>>>>>>>>> on OCR like in Acrobat DC. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>> I just received my first pdf file. I loaded it into Preview, but >>>>>>>>>>> could not figure out how to access the text. Also, if it is an >>>>>>>>>>> image, is there a way I can perform OCR on it without attaching a >>>>>>>>>>> scanner? Is there a version of Acrobat Reader for the Mac which is >>>>>>>>>>> worth accessing? 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