Hi, The Apple TV has to be the device sending the music to the receiver. If you AirPlay from your iPhone to the Apple TV, then it is the iPhone that is in control, and thus you are essentially using AirPlay to deal with the music, and AirPlay which then limits the bandwidth. The Apple TV 4K is perfectly accessible and supports Siri, thus you can ask music to be played via the Siri remote for the Apple TV. As long as the receiver has HDMI input, you’re good to go. There’s no need to connect a TV for the video when playing music. There are ways of using your iPhone as a remote for the Apple TV, but it’s not really that necessary with the Siri remote.
I would say that all AV modern receivers would have HDMI inputs and outputs, but if it’s not an AV receiver that you’re interested in, then you’ll need to confirm. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > Thanks. That was something where I feared for. I honestly don’t know if the > music system which I am interested in has any hdmi ports, but even if it does > and I get an Apple TV 4k for this, how do I control Apple Music? From the > Apple TV or from my iPhone too? The latter is my preferred method. > > Ronald > > >> Op 16 jun. 2021, om 17:12 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> het volgende geschreven: >> >> Hi Ronald, >> >> According to this post: >> >> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734 >> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252848734> >> >> Both AirPlay and AirPlay 2 can actually handle lossless, but for some >> reason, the AirPlay signal is converted/compressed thus it will not be >> lossless by the time it reaches your receiver. >> >> The best way to get lossless audio as well as Dolby Atmos is to use an Apple >> TV 4K connected via HDMI to the receiver. If your system supports it, >> lossless and Dolby Atmos will be passed through to the receiver from the >> Apple TV 4K using this setup. >> >> Later… >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Jamf Certified Tech >> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >> Apple Teacher >> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >>> On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl >>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: >>> >>> hello, >>> >>> You are probably right there Tim, in being the track your are playing >>> should be in lossless if you have this setting enabled. The problem is not >>> every track is available in lossless yet, about 20 million Apple says. And >>> by the end of the year they should all be. >>> I want to be absolutely sure my favourite music is or will be in lossless, >>> since I also use Qobuz for this reason (which is not accessible enough and >>> double the price of Apple Music). >>> Another issue with Apple Music could be when playing on a high end music >>> system. Apple Music only lets you connect through Airplay (if supported) >>> and I don’t know if Airplay supports lossless audio. >>> >>> best, >>> Ronald >>> >>> >>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 22:22 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> het volgende geschreven: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> As far as I can tell, if you’re listening to the Apple Music version of a >>>> title, it will be lossless if you’ve set your device to play lossless. >>>> There are other considerations as well. See this article: >>>> >>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183 >>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212183> >>>> >>>> Also, for an interesting read on the whole lossless, spacial audio realm, >>>> check out the article below: >>>> >>>> https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php >>>> >>>> <https://www.gsmarena.com/understanding_lossless_highresolution_and_spatial_audio-news-49490.php> >>>> >>>> Later… >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>> Apple Teacher >>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 12:06 PM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl >>>>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Will do., although lossless is most important to me. >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> Ronald >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:57 heeft 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> het volgende geschreven: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ronald, >>>>>> >>>>>> In the Music app, in Apple Music, select the Browse tab. If your device >>>>>> supports it, there are spacial audio playlists there for you to check >>>>>> out. >>>>>> >>>>>> Later… >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl >>>>>>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Patrick, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok you came across some playlists marked with the word spatial audio, >>>>>>> that’s good to know. The word Spatial, was that in the name of the >>>>>>> playlist or an additional tag? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ronald >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 15 jun. 2021, om 19:47 heeft Patrick Ford <xplorer1...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:xplorer1...@gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, I have noticed that there are a number of playlists designed by >>>>>>>> Apple that are marked with the words spatial audio. These lists cover >>>>>>>> a wide variety of genres. I have also noticed that when you select >>>>>>>> lossless files in your preferences all the music which has not been >>>>>>>> downloaded will play in this format. >>>>>>>> The bummer for me is that, unless I am misunderstanding, you cannot >>>>>>>> appreciate the spatial audio unless you are wearing a headset and I >>>>>>>> think certain TV's. I have a surround sound system but sadly it will >>>>>>>> not play the spatial audio. >>>>>>>> Patrick >>>>>>>> Come and See >>>>>>>> scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io >>>>>>>> <mailto:scripturepassage-subscr...@groups.io> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 1:01 PM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl >>>>>>>>> <mailto:pa...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is anyone using the lossless feature of Apple Music on Mac and/or >>>>>>>>> iPhone already? >>>>>>>>> I am curious if we can read which music is in lossless format with >>>>>>>>> Voice Over. And if so, where exactly is this info found. Perhaps its >>>>>>>>> due to me still running Catalina, but I never hear any info about >>>>>>>>> lossless quality when browsing the Apple Music library. Same goes for >>>>>>>>> Dolby Atmos/Spatial Audio. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>> Ronald >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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