Hi, I’m not having this issue Dave. Where is this happening for you? There was a bug with Big Sur and VO-shift-m on the Dock, but that has been finally fixed in the latest update to Big Sur.
Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Jun 8, 2021, at 8:54 AM, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Also finding that the VO+shift+M menu does not always react, and requires > turning VO off and back on to re-engage. > This reminds me of the old focus issues with keyboard in JAWS. VO seems to > lose focus and needs a little kick in the butt to wake it up. Been happening > on Mojave all along. > > Dave Carlson > Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer > > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:40 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes, this does happen occasionally. I had a possible reason for it a few > years ago, but I can’t recall what I had come up with. In any case, 9 times > out of 10 it will eventually quit itself. No need to force quit. It’s not > hurting anything. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Jun 8, 2021, at 6:55 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Les, >> >> I have had this problem for a while now, since way before getting the new >> Mac. I have no idea what causes it or how to solve it, but I can tell you >> that turning VO off, waiting a couple seconds and then turning VO back on >> usually allows Mail to close. Sorry I don’t have a better solution, but at >> least this is better than nothing. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:52 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> So after a week, I can say that things are going really well with my >>> MacBook Air. I do have one problem which is annoying the daylights out of >>> me. More often than not, when I quit the Mac App with Command-Q, it hangs. >>> It will close eventually, but this does not seem to be normal behavior. I >>> have done a Force Quit initiated with Command Option Escape, but that does >>> not resolve this issue. Any ideas as to what I can do to get Mail to behave >>> as it should? >>> Best, >>> >>> Les >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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