Hi Brian,

On 15 Mar 2010, at 16:44, Bryan Smart wrote:
> I think that, if app pieces are left over in /library, then they won't slow 
> down the computer, since nothing will be loading them. However, they take up 
> disk space, increase the required size for your backups, etc. It is certainly 
> a better situation than on Windows, for example, but I'd really like to get 
> rid of all of the bits.
Have you tried App Delete. I don't have a URL, but I think its around 8.00 USD.

TC
James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny

> Hi.
> 
> I think that, if app pieces are left over in /library, then they won't slow 
> down the computer, since nothing will be loading them. However, they take up 
> disk space, increase the required size for your backups, etc. It is certainly 
> a better situation than on Windows, for example, but I'd really like to get 
> rid of all of the bits.
> 
> Sometimes I can see obvious bits, like a folder in app support. Other times, 
> though, items are tucked away in the other folders: a plug in, a startup 
> item, etc. That's what I'd like to be able to remove reliably.
> 
> Bryan
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James & Nash
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 6:27 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: apple trap: removing programs and all the related components
> 
> Hi Bian, 
> 
> Which Library are you referring to? I generally just go in and remove 
> everything that is related to a deleted app, unless of course it is being 
> used by something else.
> 
> But in most cases, I think it is safe to remove everything associated with a 
> given application. Perhaps someone could confirm this, but I don't think Mac 
> OS X treats applications and their associated files as UNIX or Linux does, 
> with its bias towards "dependencies". I think this is quite a good way of 
> using resources, as any application that needs a given file can use it, and 
> their no need to keep downloading the same files for different applications. 
> 
> TC
> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
> On 14 Mar 2010, at 19:06, Bryan Smart wrote:
> 
>> Except a bunch of bits and pieces under /library. I'm never quite sure what 
>> old crud is safe to delete in their, but there are always lots of support 
>> files.
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James & Nash
>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 2:33 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: apple trap: removing programs and all the related 
>> components
>> 
>> Hi William,
>> 
>> 99% of the time, sending applications to the Trash is exactly the right way 
>> to go about removing them. There are sometimes support files and application 
>> preferences floating around, and if you know where  to look to get rid of 
>> them then feel free. But leaving them on the system isn't going to do any 
>> harm. The other 1% of the time, you may need to run an uninstaller. But the 
>> vast majority of applications do not use one. In fact, I'm not sure why 
>> certain apps do. Perhaps they are just too big to be contained in a disk 
>> image.
>> 
>> You should also remember , that because Mac OS X is based upon UNIX, there 
>> is no Registry to worry about. You won't find pesky bits of redundant 
>> application related stuff all over your system. 
>> 
>> TC
>> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
>> On 14 Mar 2010, at 17:43, William Windels wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Jes,
>>> I have successfully removed the shortcuts/icons from the doc, so far so 
>>> good.
>>> I have not really a problem with this icons on the doc but, I only want to 
>>> take care about my actual install of mac osx and for that , I want to be 
>>> shore that: 
>>> removing programs by moving them to the trash , is a good , save and 
>>> efficient way of removing programs.
>>> Also, I want to know if apple trap is sufficient and enough to keep my 
>>> computer clean without parts of programs on my system after removing them.
>>> On windows, after installing and uninstalling alot of programs , the system 
>>> becomes slow and inefficiƫnt because of some parts of the programs in 
>>> shared components, rules in the registry , inactive shortcuts...
>>> Because of this , you need sometimes to re-install your windows to delete 
>>> all that rubish.
>>> 
>>> So, I want to know if mac is doing better and if apple trap is enough to do 
>>> this task.
>>> 
>>> best regards,
>>> William
>>> Op 14-mrt-2010, om 18:22 heeft Jess het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>>> I have now removed all the items in the trash and the elements of 
>>>> microsoft office (for the mac), are still on the dock. Is this normal?
>>>> Yep, gotta love Microsoft. Even though you removed some big bloated 
>>>> program, they leave little traces of it around, even on your Mac. Try 
>>>> going to the dock and removing the appropriate items. Let us know if that 
>>>> fixes your problem.
>>>> Jes
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 14, 2010, at 1:11 PM, William Windels wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> I have a question about removing programs:
>>>>> I have deleted programs with the program apple trap.
>>>>> The program, this is a plugin for the system prefferences, was active and 
>>>>> I simply putted the programs in the trash.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps I have done something wrong while removing microsoft office with 
>>>>> apptrap?
>>>>> I think, all files are selected by default to remove?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have now removed all the items in the trash and the elements of 
>>>>> microsoft office (for the mac), are still on the dock.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this normal?
>>>>> 
>>>>> best regards,
>>>>> William
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