Hey Tim, Thank you, this is super helpful. I’m wondering if I initially had trouble because I was trying to use the VO keys. The editing that I have to do is so minimal, that at least for now, I don’t think I’ll bother with ChromeVox, but I appreciate the tip.
Thank you very much for this. Cheers, Donna Sent from my iPad > On May 16, 2020, at 9:40 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hi Donna, > > On a Mac, when opening a Google Sheet, wait for it to totally load. Once > loaded, do not use VO keys, and just use your up/down/right/left arrows to > navigate withinin the sheet. After loading, your cursor is normally place in > cell A1, and depending on your VO settings, the contents of each cell should > be announced as you arrow through the various cells. When you get to the one > you wish to edit, just type in your data then press an arrow key, the tab > key, or return. Continue moving around in this fashion to look at other > cells. This basic navigation and more is accomplished well in Safari or > Chrome. You can use the Item Chooser as well to find things such as the > various menus and such. One that I use often is VO-i then type the word > “file”, VO-space to open the File menu, press “d” to get to Download then > return to download a version of the file in Excel. this is just for faster > viewing purposes as you’ll need to do all editing in the actual Google Sheet. > Once the sheet is downloaded, you can use either Excel or Numbers to review > it quicker just so you have a good understanding of the layout etc. Safari > is usable in most cases, but Chrome works better in Chrome apps. Some of the > elements such as certain pop-up menus and such are more responsive in Chrome > than in Safari. I use a lot of tab key navigation and a fair amount of arrow > navigation without VO keys. You end up having to use a lot of the tricks in > your basket as these Googly apps are usable, but certainly not designed with > accessibility in mind. You may also wish to add the ChromeVox extension to > Chrome as it works well within the Google environment. The drawback with > ChromeVox is that it’s another group of keyboard navigation commands to learn > and it can sometimes be slower than VO navigation as it works through the > ChromeOS platform as opposed to the built-in MacOS. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On May 15, 2020, at 10:01 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > What I need to do is fairly straight forward. It's a spreadsheet that tracks > troubleshooting issues. So I need to be able to do two things: > 1. Enter text into a cell > 2. Check the status of the report I or a coworker entered. > > The latter seems to work fine, both on Mac and Windows. But entering text in > the cells seems more problematic. I did finally get the Mac to let me enter > text, but I'm not sure why it worked, so don't know if I can reproduce it. > lol Just thought maybe there was some command, or mode or other trick that I > needed to invoke. > > Oh, and when you say enable braille support, are you referring to > Cmd-Option-Z? That's the command I see for enabling screen-reader support, > but I never get braille. > > Oh, and while I'm on the topic, I haven't yet upgraded to Catalina, but was > thinking I might do so next week. Does that upgrade impact how one works with > GoogleSheets, either for better or for worse? > > I've got till fall to figure this out, but I figured someone here has > probably worked with GoogleSheets before, so figured it was worth asking. > > Thanks for the help, Jonathan. > Cheers, > Donna > >> On May 15, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> DOwnload to computer and edit with Numbers? >> OK, OK for the Mac I understand Chrome works better than JAWS, and you >> probably want to turn on Braille support even if you are not using a braille >> display. Note, I have only studied this not practiced it. Well, I need to >> move things from Share Drives into Google Docs so let me find a spreadsheet >> and test. 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