Hi Donna, On a Mac, when opening a Google Sheet, wait for it to totally load. Once loaded, do not use VO keys, and just use your up/down/right/left arrows to navigate withinin the sheet. After loading, your cursor is normally place in cell A1, and depending on your VO settings, the contents of each cell should be announced as you arrow through the various cells. When you get to the one you wish to edit, just type in your data then press an arrow key, the tab key, or return. Continue moving around in this fashion to look at other cells. This basic navigation and more is accomplished well in Safari or Chrome. You can use the Item Chooser as well to find things such as the various menus and such. One that I use often is VO-i then type the word “file”, VO-space to open the File menu, press “d” to get to Download then return to download a version of the file in Excel. this is just for faster viewing purposes as you’ll need to do all editing in the actual Google Sheet. Once the sheet is downloaded, you can use either Excel or Numbers to review it quicker just so you have a good understanding of the layout etc. Safari is usable in most cases, but Chrome works better in Chrome apps. Some of the elements such as certain pop-up menus and such are more responsive in Chrome than in Safari. I use a lot of tab key navigation and a fair amount of arrow navigation without VO keys. You end up having to use a lot of the tricks in your basket as these Googly apps are usable, but certainly not designed with accessibility in mind. You may also wish to add the ChromeVox extension to Chrome as it works well within the Google environment. The drawback with ChromeVox is that it’s another group of keyboard navigation commands to learn and it can sometimes be slower than VO navigation as it works through the ChromeOS platform as opposed to the built-in MacOS.
Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On May 15, 2020, at 10:01 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: What I need to do is fairly straight forward. It's a spreadsheet that tracks troubleshooting issues. So I need to be able to do two things: 1. Enter text into a cell 2. Check the status of the report I or a coworker entered. The latter seems to work fine, both on Mac and Windows. But entering text in the cells seems more problematic. I did finally get the Mac to let me enter text, but I'm not sure why it worked, so don't know if I can reproduce it. lol Just thought maybe there was some command, or mode or other trick that I needed to invoke. Oh, and when you say enable braille support, are you referring to Cmd-Option-Z? That's the command I see for enabling screen-reader support, but I never get braille. Oh, and while I'm on the topic, I haven't yet upgraded to Catalina, but was thinking I might do so next week. Does that upgrade impact how one works with GoogleSheets, either for better or for worse? I've got till fall to figure this out, but I figured someone here has probably worked with GoogleSheets before, so figured it was worth asking. Thanks for the help, Jonathan. Cheers, Donna > On May 15, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > DOwnload to computer and edit with Numbers? > OK, OK for the Mac I understand Chrome works better than JAWS, and you > probably want to turn on Braille support even if you are not using a braille > display. Note, I have only studied this not practiced it. Well, I need to > move things from Share Drives into Google Docs so let me find a spreadsheet > and test. 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