ah wait,
it may be a 5s, need to check.
I researched it once but honestly do not remember since the model is irreverent if I cannot use the phone without getting sick.
Nice to know about the upgrade, will   ask about that.
I imagine  there is a device record under my apple id information.
Will call support and ask.



On Mon, 23 Mar 2020, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

Well if there is an IOS update for your phone then you might as well do it, It 
might help and if it doesn???t help then you haven???t lost anything. You 
certainly won???t be able to update to any of the iOS 13 updates but if it is a 
5s then you will at least get the latest IOS 12.  When we say that apple is no 
longer supporting it we mean there is no more software updates for it, but the 
help centre will probably still help you. However they did release an update 
for some of the older phones last year, which they don???t normally do.

On 23/03/2020, at 10:36, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

This phone came to me as a freebie from someone in my office who  new I needed  
a test device before investing in anything.
I have no idea which ios  is running.  still, some information must exist 
indicating the last time the enhanced voices were changed.
I can certainly upgrade the IOS, apple support gave no indication that this 
phone was not supported any longer.
Still, rather than doing more randomness leading nowhere, I wanted a direction  
 for further testing  in mind.
Siri is going though if it can be removed.
Kare



On Mon, 23 Mar 2020, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:

That depends on what 5 it is? If it is just a 5 than I think the latest OS is 
IOS 10 and the 5s is up to IOS 12. I think the SE can still be updated too 13. 
I actually find the standard voices better then the enhanced voices on all of 
the IOS versions and I think I entered the iPhone family with IOS 7.
But like ET said, it might be time to upgrade your phone, but this isn???t 
always affordable for some people.

On 22/03/2020, at 18:47, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

and a side siri one as well?
Will ask the siri one first..can it be removed once installed?
The voiceover voice  question has to do with sound quality.
I finally found a discussion thread about this with others noting the same 
thing.  Daniel who I believe is the UK English voice  changed in its enhanced 
form a while back.  I do not know if it has been  improved, or better still  
when was the last  upgrade to  the Daniel voice?
I have an iPhone in the 5 family.  it is possible    that  upgrading IOS 
itself, or the voice, if I can, will improve things.
for now though  the quality  clarity and pronunciation is rather dreadful.
I did not want siri, but apple accessibility, who was talking with the person  
helping me use the phone suggested the download because voiceover  itself was 
not working well according to them.
Siri, which was male in this case, sounded worse than the Daniel voice itself.
I believe? Nuance makes the apple voices.  Is there any way to reach them 
directly?
last of all, I understand there are other  options for voices,  with my 
wondering about direct contacts too, as I will have to walk someone else 
through  reaching them.
My situation is that since most software generated speech is in a frequency 
range that stimulates my brain's dizzy centres, experimenting can make me 
rather sick.  That is what happened when trying to resolve the Daniel / male 
siri  situation.
meaning I really want to plan ahead before testing anything further.
ideas?
Karen



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