I think that feature is only available if you're using Airpods. Regards, Shawn, Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility Matters or my new group, Mac Users And Newbies? Send me a private email with your contact information and I'll happily add you. Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > On Jan 12, 2020, at 1:19 PM, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, I couldn’t find that setting either. > >> On 13/01/2020, at 07:20, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I do not see this under Notifications. Where exactly is this setting? Thanks. >> >> Later… >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 12, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: >>> >>> another thought: New in iOS 13, under Notifications, is the option to >>> have Siri announce incoming messages. I have this set to off. >>> >>> - Brad - >>> >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2020, at 11:01, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: >>> >>> I assume you have tried toggling this setting on, and then off again. >>> >>> - Brad - >>> >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2020, at 10:16, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> That is disabled for me as well Brad, but still have the issue. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Jamf Certified Tech >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2020, at 08:41, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: >>> >>> I haven’t weighed in on this thread, because I do not experience unwanted >>> message notifications during calls. >>> Not long after I got my first iPhone, in the days of iOS 5, I quickly >>> learned that having my incoming messages automatically read aloud by >>> VoiceOver for all the world to hear was not something I wanted. So, I went >>> into VoiceOver settings, found the setting for "Always Speak >>> Notifications", and disabled this feature. >>> Since doing this, I haven’t given this issue another thought. >>> >>> - Brad - >>> >>> >>> On Jan 12, 2020, at 07:53, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se >>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> I actually don’t have this problem of VoiceOver reading the message when i >>> am on a call. >>> But i use to lock the screen when i am talking to someone. >>> But it should be fixed in a more reliable way. >>> /A >>> >>>> 9 jan. 2020 kl. 23:04 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Thanks Petrus. Yes, that would work in the meantime. I believe that it >>>> needs to be addressed by Apple though as some sort of automation or >>>> setting. I have done that a time or two, but usually forget until I'm in >>>> the middle of a call and a text message comes in reading itself. >>>> >>>> Later... >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>> Apple Teacher >>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 15:00, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Tim, >>>> As I was going for my morning walk I had an idea. You could always do a >>>> three finger double tap on the screen after you answer a call to mute >>>> VoiceOver, so you are effectively sticking a sock in its mouth. And you >>>> just need to repeat the gesture once you end the call. >>>> >>>>> On 10/01/2020, at 10:31, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net >>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That seems like a distracted driving, or walking for that matter accident >>>>> in the making. >>>>> I am surprised there is not a fix for it already. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2020, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Actually, I agree that Apple should fix this. My wife has "Do not >>>>>> disturb while driving” turned on. But if she is talking on the phone >>>>>> with hands free then alerts from text messages and iMessages still come >>>>>> through and are quite audible over the cars speakers. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/01/2020, at 10:20, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net >>>>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Will that do the trick for you? >>>>>>> I cannot speak directly to managing this on your device, but my flip >>>>>>> has a separate setting for managing text and e related message >>>>>>> notifications. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, you are correct in that it will silence notifications from that >>>>>>>> conversation until you unmute the conversation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Later... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 14:09, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’m guessing that if you swipe up once on a message to hide alerts >>>>>>>> that will silent messages from that person all the time? I’m not >>>>>>>> played with that one but I have turned it on accidentally many times >>>>>>>> when I’m deleting messages. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10/01/2020, at 10:05, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Karen, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No, it's messages, as in iMessages or text messages, that cause me >>>>>>>>> grief. I've got around it for most other notifications. Thanks for >>>>>>>>> the suggestion though. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Later... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 14:02, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net >>>>>>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net><mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net >>>>>>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>><mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net >>>>>>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net><mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net >>>>>>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tim, >>>>>>>>> Is it a certain type of message notification you are getting? >>>>>>>>> I ask because if it is say a message notifying you of in coming mail, >>>>>>>>> perhaps the notification control is in a different area? >>>>>>>>> Just a thought, >>>>>>>>> Kare >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion, but I've already tried that. It works >>>>>>>>>> well for most, but not for when messages come in. I do have it off >>>>>>>>>> already. Even in Settings, Notifications, setting Notification >>>>>>>>>> Previews to "Never" does not seem to make a difference. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Later... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Later... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 13:35, Greg Wocher <gwoc...@gwocher.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com><mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com>><mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com><mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>> There is a setting in voiceover that says always speak >>>>>>>>>> notifications. See if turning that to off will help. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Greg Wocher >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 3:14 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the cross post. Hoping that someone can be insightful. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone figured out a way of silencing message notifications >>>>>>>>>>> while you're on a phone call? I was able to mostly silence other >>>>>>>>>>> notifications so that there is just a vibration or minor attention >>>>>>>>>>> grabber in order that I know something came in, but it's not >>>>>>>>>>> distracting. Whereas, iMessages are another story. VO likes to >>>>>>>>>>> read them out as they come in, which can make it extremely hard to >>>>>>>>>>> hear whoever is calling me as well as being very distracting. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have suggested to Apple of implementing something like "do Not >>>>>>>>>>> Disturb While on Call", but I'm not quite important enough for them >>>>>>>>>>> to jump at my requests. I have played with a number of >>>>>>>>>>> notification settings with no joy yet. I even checked in >>>>>>>>>>> Activities to see if I could do something from in there, but no >>>>>>>>>>> obvious fix reached out to me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas would be appreciated. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Later... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>>>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>>>>>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>>>>>>>>> the list itself. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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