Hi!
I actually don’t have this problem of VoiceOver reading the message when i am 
on a call.
But i use to lock the screen when i am talking to someone.
But it should be fixed in a more reliable way.
/A

> 9 jan. 2020 kl. 23:04 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks Petrus.  Yes, that would work in the meantime.  I believe that it 
> needs to be addressed by Apple though as some sort of automation or setting.  
> I have done that a time or two, but usually forget until I'm in the middle of 
> a call and a text message comes in reading itself.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jan 9, 2020, at 15:00, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> As I was going for my morning walk I had an idea. You could always do a three 
> finger double tap on the screen after you answer a call to mute VoiceOver, so 
> you are effectively sticking a sock in its mouth.  And you just need to 
> repeat the gesture once you end the call.  
> 
>> On 10/01/2020, at 10:31, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net 
>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> That seems like a distracted driving, or walking for that matter accident in 
>> the making.
>> I am surprised there is not a fix for it already.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2020, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually, I agree that Apple should fix this. My wife has "Do not disturb 
>>> while driving”  turned on. But if she is talking on the phone with hands 
>>> free then alerts from  text messages and iMessages still come through and 
>>> are quite audible over the cars speakers.
>>> 
>>>> On 10/01/2020, at 10:20, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net 
>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Will that do the trick for you?
>>>> I cannot speak directly to managing this  on your device, but  my flip has 
>>>> a separate setting for managing text and e related message notifications.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, you are correct in that it will silence notifications from that 
>>>>> conversation until you unmute the conversation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 14:09, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m guessing that if you swipe up once on a message to hide alerts that 
>>>>> will silent messages from that person all the time? I’m not played with 
>>>>> that one but I have turned it on accidentally many times when I’m 
>>>>> deleting messages.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10/01/2020, at 10:05, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Karen,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No, it's messages, as in iMessages or text messages, that cause me 
>>>>>> grief.  I've got around it for most other notifications. Thanks for the 
>>>>>> suggestion though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 14:02, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net><mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>><mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net><mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>> Is it a certain type of message notification you are getting?
>>>>>> I ask because if it is say a message notifying you of in coming mail, 
>>>>>> perhaps the notification control is in a different area?
>>>>>> Just a thought,
>>>>>> Kare
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion, but I've already tried that.  It works well 
>>>>>>> for most, but not for when messages come in.  I do have it off already. 
>>>>>>>  Even in Settings, Notifications, setting Notification Previews to 
>>>>>>> "Never" does not seem to make a difference.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 13:35, Greg Wocher <gwoc...@gwocher.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com><mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com>><mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com><mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:gwoc...@gwocher.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> There is a setting in voiceover that says always speak notifications. 
>>>>>>> See if turning that to off will help.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2020, at 3:14 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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>>>>>>>>  
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>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry for the cross post.  Hoping that someone can be insightful.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Has anyone figured out a way of silencing message notifications while 
>>>>>>>> you're on a phone call?  I was able to mostly silence other 
>>>>>>>> notifications so that there is just a vibration or minor attention 
>>>>>>>> grabber in order that I know something came in, but it's not 
>>>>>>>> distracting.  Whereas, iMessages are another story.  VO likes to read 
>>>>>>>> them out as they come in, which can make it extremely hard to hear 
>>>>>>>> whoever is calling me as well as being very distracting.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have suggested to Apple of implementing something like "do Not 
>>>>>>>> Disturb While on Call", but I'm not quite important enough for them to 
>>>>>>>> jump at my requests.  I have played with a number of notification 
>>>>>>>> settings with no joy yet.  I even checked in Activities to see if I 
>>>>>>>> could do something from in there, but no obvious fix reached out to me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>> 
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