Hi Jonathan,

I can use Control-v to move down a page in TextEdit without setting mouse follows VoiceOver cursor, but you asked about use in Pages as well as in TextEdit. I usually have TextEdit set to work with plain text files by default, which is better for multi-lingual use. In that case, I have no need to set my mouse cursor to follow my VoiceOver cursor. However, there are instances where I've been sent a Word document or RTF formatted file. In those cases, I may need to set my mouse cursor to follow my VoiceOver cursor to navigate reliably without losing focus, which is why I included that comment. (I checked some documents before replying, and I had to reset my cursor tracking to navigate consistently for some documents that were not plain text. This was also the case for some instances where I used "find" to move to the end of the file on the basis of a text search.)

OK, try this. I can't find it documented anywhere if I run a Google search, but I can use Fn-Option-Up arrow and Fn-Option-Down arrow to move up and down a page in TextEdit. I'm a little hesitant to recommend something non-standard, because at one time I imported some WordService keybinding definitions into my Services menu. (It turns out I had to fix quite a number of instances where I removed conflicts with existing key definitions after I did this.) I don't think these sequences were part of the definitions, but you'll just have to try the combinations out and see whether they work for you. Again, I'm using an Early 2008 MacBook (the last 13" release before the Unibody models came out) with Leopard.
Let me know whether this works.

Also, two slightly off-topic items that may be of interest to you: First, I recall that you program in Python. The latest entry in O'Reilly's "eBook Deal of the Day" at:
feed://feeds.feedburner.com/oreilly/ebookdealoftheday
is "Learning Python" 4th ed. for $9.99 for the eBook bundle (DRM-free, PDF, ePub, and other formats) with the coupon code of DDPYT. These are updated not quite every day, and the current code is still good (for about a $30 savings on this 1216 page volume by Mark Lutz, released September 2009).

Also, a while ago there was some discussion about how to read your (Spanish) blog in English. I meant to point out that anyone can copy a java scriptlet from the Google Translate page and save it as a bookmark on their Bookmarks bar. Because you'd want the java scriptlet to get pasted into the address field of the bookmark, what you'd do is copy an existing bookmark and then edit the name and address field. Then, you'd paste in the java scriptlet for your language into the address field. If this were saved as the first bookmark, for example, then pressing Command-1 would translate the contents of any current web page into your selected language.

So you'd do the following in Safari. (Note, keeping the bookmarks bar and address bar hidden usually makes navigation of the bookmarks page easier, although it's not necessary: toggle the bookmarks bar on and off with Command-Shift-B, and toggle the address bar (also known as toolbar) on or off with Command-Shift-Backslash on an English language keyboard or else use the Safari "View" menu on the menu bar to "Hide toolbar")

1. Open the bookmarks page (Command-Option-B)
2. Navigate to the table of bookmark collections and folders (I usually use Command-F followed by Shift-Tab to get to this table, but tabbing or shift tabbing will get you there) and interact (VO-Shift- Down arrow) 3. Select the "Bookmarks Bar" (either arrrow down or type the first few letters of the name) 4. Stop interacting with the table of bookmark collections and folders (VO-Shift-Up arrow) 5. Navigate (VO-Right arrow) to the table of "Bookmarks Bar" bookmarks and interact (VO-Shift-Down Arrow) 6. Move to the top of the table (VO-Home, or VO-Fn-Shift-Left Arrow on a laptop) 7. If you do not have any entries under your Bookmarks Bar, press Command-D to create a bookmark of your last visited web page location. A dialog window will appear, and you'll be prompted to "Type a name for the bookmark, and choose where to keep it." VO-Right arrow to the name of the bookmark and type in "Translate". VO-Right arrow again to the pop up button, press it (VO-Space), and use your arrow keys to find "Bookmarks Bar" (not "Bookmarks Menu"), then press return. VO-Right Arrow to the "Add" button and press it (VO-Space) to add the bookmark. 8. If you do have entries in your Bookmarks Bar, do a copy and paste to duplicate your first entry (Command-C, then Command-V). Then, VO- Down arrow and VO-Up arrow again to verify that you have a duplicate of your first entry. You can use the context menu (VO-Shift-M), use your arrow keys to select "Edit Name", and press return. Then, you can type in "Translate" or other title for your bookmark, and press return when done.
9. Navigate to the Google Translate Tools and Resources page:
http://translate.google.com/translate_tools?
(If you like, just do a Google search for this page by pressing "Command-Option F" and typing in "Google Translate Tools and Resources", then pressing return. The result should come up as a link named "Tools -- Google Translate".) 10. Use item chooser menu to find the heading "Get 1-click translations from your browser's toolbar". Then, VO-Right arrow to find the alphabetically ordered language link you want to copy. Or, you can just use item chooser menu (VO-I) to look for the link you want -- English, Spanish, French, etc. 11. When you've selected your language, use the contextual menu to copy the link (VO-Shift-M and choose "Copy Link").
12. Bring back up the bookmarks page (Command-Option-B)
13. Tab to the table of bookmarks for your Bookmarks Bar and interact. You should find your "Translate" bookmark. 14. Use the context menu (VO-Shift-M), arrow to "Edit Address", and press return. 15. In the address field, press the delete key to ensure there is no residual text, then paste in the javascript for the link with Command- V and press return. Toggle off the Bookmarks page with Command-Option- B.

Now, you are all set to try your 1-click Java Script Google Translation. Point to a page in another language -- e.g. Jonthan's blog from his signature line:
http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/
Press Command-1 to see the version of this page translated into English, or French, or whichever language you chose. (Or he can choose to translate an English web page into Spanish). This method works for other java web scripts (or "scriptlets"), too. Of course, it is only the Google machine translation, but you have the option to click on a link to view the original page.

HTH

Cheers,

Esther

Jonathan Chacón wrote:

Hello Esther,

thanks for the keyStroke.

it works fine but I didn't set navigation options about mouse follows voiceOver cursor. It works fine in Snow leopard

do you know other keystroke to go back a page like pageUp key?




Regards
        Jonathan Chacón Barbero
  Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant

Phone: +34 679953948
e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net
Blog: http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon
LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero
Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com
Skype: Tyflos_
Ping for iPhone: jchacon


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.

Reply via email to