Hello Jonathan,

I also have a MacBook, and when using TextEdit I use Control-V to move down one page. You will need to set your Navigation options to check "Mouse cursor follows VoiceOver cursor" under VoiceOver Utility to use this with RTF documents. This is in Leopard; I don't know whether there are conflicts with Snow Leopard settings. Some time ago, Greg Kearney posted a link to the emacs-style default system Cocoa commands:

http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/Site/System%20Bindings.html

The first set of these commands are simply the ones for moving and selecting that were described in this archived post about "Moving and Selecting in Cocoa apps":
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02038.html

The second set of commands are Control key sequences that deal with moving with scrolling, including page up and page down. Of these, the sequences that move or select to the beginning or end of a document (or table listing, such as in the messages table for mail) work with VoiceOver: (VO-Home and VO-End, or VO-Fn-Shift-Left Arrow and VO-Fn- Shift-Right Arrow on a laptop -- although recently we were told that holding down the Option key while pressing the Up Arrow or Down Arrow button and waiting for a while will also work). In a recent discussion, Anne posted:

Begin forwarded message:

Hello everyone,

The situation with Home, End, Page up and Page down is this. When you use these commands, the visual focus moves but the VO focus does not. So, for totally blind users, it appears as though they don't work.

Cheers,

Anne

I think what happens for arbitrary scrolling and paging, the visual focus will not necessarily fall on a line that has VoiceOver focus, unless you move to the beginning or end of a document where this line is well defined, and that's why the scrolling/page up or down commands work in these cases, but not for paging movement within the document.

The third set of commands are the emacs-like combinations with the Control key pressed together with letter keys. Control-v to move down a page is in this category. I suspect that these all work because they are oriented for editing lines, words, and characters in a document. Even so, you may experience focus-related problems if you are working with anything except plain text documents, unless you have your mouse cursor tracking your VoiceOver cursor, and you may have to try to move (e.g. VO-Right arrow) to have VoiceOver update and pick up from the location you jumped to. The other thing you can try is to use the "Find" command (Command-F) to move to point later in your document. Again, this is in Leopard, and results depend on your navigation settings. This will work if you have everything except "VoiceOver cursor follows Mouse cursor" checked under navigation, and specifically have "Mouse cursor follows VoiceOver cursor" checked.

Of this last group of commands, the ones I sometimes use are:

Control-a        move to beginning of line
Control-e        move to end of line
Control-x        transpose letters (good for typos)
Control-v        move one page down

HTH.

Cheers,

Esther

Jonathan Chacón wrote:

Hello,

I've got a macBook and I use voiceOver.

I tryed to read a text in textEdit or pages jumping between pages usin pageUp and pageDown keys ( Function+up arrow and function+down arrow in macBook keyboard) but voiceOver doesn't jump to the next or previous page.

How can I jump between pages in a text area?

thanks and regards
        Jonathan Chacón


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