HI; In my case, my brand new computer came with a bunch of top sites on it already, presumably sights that advertised with Apple such as CNN, New York Times, and the like. What a mess that was. I'm definitely hanging onto this info. Thanks Esther. On Feb 3, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Esther wrote:
> Hello Amber, > > I'll try to add my answers to Scott's regarding the use of bookmarks in > Safari. Top Sites is a feature that was introduced in Safari 4. Instead of > being sites that you choose to bookmark, these are the sites that you visit > most frequently, based on your recent browsing activity. The idea is that > you can easily get back to these sites without having to set a bookmark for > them, and that the places that make up your top sites will change depending > on your interests over time. In contrast, you might use bookmarks for more > permanent markers. > > When you show your Bookmarks page (with Command-Option-B), there are > basically three areas: (1) a search field for running searches of your > bookmarks, (2) a table for selecting the collection or folder of bookmarks > you want to use, and (3) a table that lists the individual bookmarks in your > selected collection or folder. This is very much like the organization of > iTunes and other applications. What may be complicating your view of the > layout when you try to navigate this page is the presence of both the > bookmarks bar and the toolbar (which includes the address bar) in Safari. > You can toggle these between hide and view with the following keyboard > shortcuts: > > Command-Shift-B hides or shows the bookmarks bar for Safari > Command-Shift-backslash hides or shows the toolbar for Safari (where the > backslash key is the rightmost key immediately below the delete key and above > the return key on an English language keyboard) > > Keeping the bookmarks bar and the toolbar hidden for Safari is an old trick > that was used starting back in Tiger when VoiceOver's navigation options were > less sophisticated -- the items in Safari's bookmarks bar and toolbar show up > both in item chooser menu and when you navigate by tabbing or with VO-arrow > keys, so hiding these bars simplifies VoiceOver's view. > > Once you have hidden the bookmarks bar and the toolbar, pressing tab will > cycle you between the three areas that I described. Pressing Shift-tab will > cycle you through these areas in the opposite direction. > > When you show your bookmarks page with Command-Option-B, you should be > positioned in the search box, with your selected folder or collection from > the table of collections or folders pointed to the location you last used. > This selection could also point to your "history" of visited sites (that were > not bookmarked). If you press tab you should be taken to the table of > individual bookmark locations listed under that category. Interact > (VO-Shift-Down arrow) to read and select individual entries. > > You can open a bookmark simply by pressing the space bar once when you're on > your selection, although Scott's correct that the context menu (VO-Shift-M) > will show you a range of options (including "open"). Having learned this > before there was context menu support, I simply use space to open bookmarked > pages and I click on either the name or address field of my bookmark with > VO-Shift-space to edit the name or address. > > To select a different folder, use tab or your VO-arrow keys to move to the > table of folders and collections, interact, and navigate to the selection > either with VO-up or down arrows or by typing the first few letters of the > folder name. Then stop interacting and tab to the table of bookmark entries > for that folder. > > You can also search for entries. Either type in your search term in the > search text field when you first show the bookmarks page or use Command-F and > type in your search term(s) then press return. You'll be taken to the search > field. VO-left arrow to find out the number of matches. VO-left again to > find out the search locations -- there should be two specified: the first is > your selected folder or collection location and the second is "All". One of > these will say "checked". To run the same search for the other location > (i.e. "All" or your selected folder), select that location with VO-space. > Then, tab to the table of results. You'll find the matches for each case. > Just press space to navigate to a selection. > > Scott has mentioned the hot keys for the bookmarks bar. There is a general > shortcut key for moving to a toolbar: Control-F5. This is a Mac OS X > shortcut that is not specific to Safari. If the toolbar is hidden, it will > also show the toolbar. > > I generally keep my toolbar and address bar hidden. (If I show them, I > either use Shift-Tab to move to the table to select my folder, or I open my > bookmarks page with the shortcut for creating a new bookmarks folder: > Command-Option-N. This opens the page and takes my focus to the table of > folders. Since I don't really want to create a new folder I then do a > Command-Z to "undo" my created folder.) > > I find that I can still access my address bar (with Command-L to copy or > paste in address locations), and my Google search bar (with > Command-Option-F). However, as soon as I execute my actions, the toolbar > closes again, so these items don't show up when I use item chooser menu, etc. > > There's an old archived post on bookmarks that I wrote two years ago. It > lists the entries that show up under the table of categories (including > history items and RSS feeds), but I think the present description is more up > to date. However, it was pretty detailed, so if you want to check it out, > here's the location in the old Mailing List archives for this list: > http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg30591.html > > HTH > > Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 3, 2010, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Amber, >> >> First the Top sites is a fancy name for the most recently visited sites. The >> more sites you visit, the more likely they will fall off the list. Second to >> access a bookmark, I interact with the url in the table and use VO-shift-m >> to bring up the contextual menu. THen you can select the action you wish. >> As far as the menu bar, you could use a hot spot which is VO-shift-a number >> 1-9 and you can remove this hot spot with the same steps and to go to that >> hot spot, you simply press VO-number where number is 1-9. >> >> hth, >> On Feb 3, 2010, Amber Pearcy wrote: >> >>> Good morning listers, >>> >>> As you can see from the subject line, I have several questions for all of >>> you today. I'll start with the questions about bookmarks and top sites. I >>> have been trying to figure out the difference and functions of both of >>> these two components of Safari for several months now, but I can't seem to >>> make much headway. Is top sites only meant to be a temporary list of the >>> most recently visited sites, or does it actually store bookmarks >>> permanently? I was under the impression that I could store my bookmarks >>> there permanently, but often, when I try to find a specific bookmark, it >>> isn't in that list. >>> In regards to the actual bookmarks section of the browser, I have never >>> been successful opening the bookmarks that I have saved there. I have >>> tried VO space, clicking with VO Shift space and double clicking. I think >>> I have even searched in vain for a contextual menu. Therefore, I resorted >>> to saving everything in top sites, but now, even this doesn't seem to be >>> working well. >>> >>> Concerning the tool bars, if I know that there is a tool bark at the top of >>> a web page or in >>> >>> a particular program, is there a shortcut or VO command that will take me >>> to the tool bar from anywhere in the program or on the web page? >>> >>> Thanks in advance for your help. >>> >>> Peace, >>> >>> Amber > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > carlene knight http://carleneknight.blogspot.com ckni...@knight-toolworks.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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