I believe there is an Apple tv remote / app for the iPhone,
I also have no issue using my ATV remote 
And I also use a Keyboard!

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of jeff `greene
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2019 4:02 AM
To: macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: alternative remote for apple tv

Hi, Well some time ago I relocated my apple tv to the closet because I couldn't 
stand the remote. I've been using a Fire Tv Cube since then and its getting 
annoying. Half the time I don't even know which app I'm opening on it. So, I'm 
thinking about bringing out the apple tv again but want to get a different 
remote for it. Does anyone on the list have experience with alternate apple tv 
remotes? Which ones do you guys recommend?
thanks Jeff

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