Hi Brent, Chris, and Others,
You might be interested in two articles that appeared on geek.com:
• "Apple’s iPad tablet doesn’t run Flash. Do you care?" By: Christian
Zibreg, January 28, 2010
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/apples-ipad-tablet-doesnt-run-flash-do-you-care-20100128/
• "Flash on iPhone made possible with Javascript Gordon project" By:
Matthew Humphries, January 14, 2010
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/flash-on-iphone-made-possible-with-javascript-gordon-project-20100114/
I was particularly interested in the reports of how fast the
navigation was on the iPad (as reported in the first article) --
faster than on the iPhone, and comparable to netbooks for the web
surfing -- except when hitting flash. There were also comments about
HTML5, like the following:
"It’s not just Apple, the web at large has been moving away from
proprietary technologies like Flash in favor of web standards like
HTML5. Even the Flash-built Vimeo and YouTube are prepping to abandon
Adobe’s technology – YouTube is currently beta testing a HTML5 video
player that bypasses the Flash plugin entirely (and Vimeo, too)."
Cheers,
Esther
On Jan 29, 2010, Brent Harding wrote:
So, since the IPhone doesn't support Flash, how can they use
Youtube? It must be encoded in something else.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Blouch
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: Apple, Adobe and Flash
I guess I'll have to try making my own html5 video page and hit it
from an iphone to find out if it really can or can't do it. Youtube
and Vimeo seem to still have logic in place that assumes they need
to shunt you to a helper app when playing video in Safari on an
iPhone.
At this point there really is nothing you can do in Flash that you
can't do in HTML/JS/CSS short of direct access to the local host
resources like disk storage, video cameras and such. I've heard they
are working on the video input bit.
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
I think that the HTML5 on YouTube is still a beta so the strange
behaviors regarding bouncing you around from program to program is
probably temporary.
I feel like I've been fighting with Adobe for a million years. I
think HTML5 is our next and maybe last great hope to kill a
proprietary system with open standards and, almost automatically,
find it supported on the OS of our choice with the access
technology we enjoy.
Happy Hacking,
cdh
On Jan 28, 2010, at 1:14 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Apple made it's own Youtube player which launches. I assume this
player uses the native video hardware decoder rather than software
to play back the video. Note that even if you opt-in for HTML5
video you still get shunted to the youtube player. Vimeo bumps you
to the QuickTime player. I didn't even know there was a QT player
on the iPhone.
CB
Chris Hofstader wrote:
Just curious, what software is running when you view a YouTube
video on the iPhone? I assumed it had to be some variety of Flash.
On Jan 28, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Interesting read about the lack of love between Apple and Adobe
in relation to Flash and why you'll never see flash on the ipod/
iphone/ipad.
http://daringfireball.net/2010/01/apple_adobe_flash
CB
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