No, and the thought of doing one terrifies me. lol Donna > On Jun 25, 2018, at 4:08 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Donna, > Ever done a clean install? That method would wipe out any potential buggies > in the system. That means not using restore. I do this when a new macOS is > released in the fall. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Science is not only compatible with spirituality; > it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan > > On 6/25/2018 1:29 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> OK, it's deleted and the Mac has been shut down and restarted. The problem >> with the option key is still there, I haven't tried to dictate anything yet. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> P.S. I've been thinking I would finally upgrade to High Sierra - wondering >> if that would fix the problem. Your thoughts? >>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com >>> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The one named "com.apple.assistance.plist" is the one you want to remove. >>> Leave the other ones be. It will rebuild itself as needed. It may not >>> hurt to restart your computer after removing the plist file to ensure it >>> uses a fresh new copy of it. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 14:00, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com >>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Tim, >>> >>> Wow! this is way deeper than I've gone before. I don't see a file named >>> om.apple.assistance. I do have several files named om.apple.assistant, >>> with various suffixes. For example, there's one dated this >>> afternoon-presumably after I modified the languages. It is called >>> om.apple.assistant.PList. There seem to be several versions of that file, >>> some of them dating back to 2012 or 2013.. Which one should I delete? >>> Thanks again! >>> Donna >>>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 2:37 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com >>>> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Donna, >>>> >>>> try this: >>>> >>>> • go to the Finder. >>>> • press cmd-shift-h to open your Home folder. >>>> • find the Library folder. If it's not visible, press cmd-j to bring up >>>> the View Options window and check the box to show your Library folder. >>>> It's way down near the bottom. >>>> • find the Preferences folder and open it. >>>> • locate the file named com.apple.assistance and trash it. cmd-delete >>>> should do it. >>>> • try dictating once again. >>>> >>>> This is step one of many that can be used to get dictation working >>>> properly. If it doesn't work, then we'll move on to #2. >>>> >>>> Later... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Apple Teacher >>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 11:48, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com >>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, Tim, >>>> >>>> I have had no luck with either Command Tab or toggling VO on and off, and >>>> I tried both multiple times. I have also removed Spanish as a second >>>> language, and that has not resolved the problem either. At this point I'm >>>> out of ideas. What you say makes sense, I just don't know what to do with >>>> the information. >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for the help! >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com >>>>> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I'm wondering if it's more the dictation engine that's causing your >>>>> problem, not the Spanish keyboard. When dictation is engaged, a new >>>>> layer is added to your screen. From a visual prospective, it's like an >>>>> overhead transparency., so the sighted user does not notice a change. >>>>> The VO user on the other hand may lose focus of the editable area of the >>>>> TextEdit document since the dictation engine took over control. Either >>>>> turning VO off then on or cmd-tabbing away then back to TextEdit may >>>>> regain proper keyboard control. >>>>> >>>>> Also, I mentioned earlier how to remove the Spanish keyboard. Were you >>>>> able to make it go away? >>>>> >>>>> Later... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 09:48, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com >>>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi ET, >>>>> >>>>> No. My keyboard shortcut is to press the FN key twice. I agree, there >>>>> shouldn't be any interference, which is why I'm wondering about the >>>>> addition of Spanish as the culprit. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 10:46 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Donna, >>>>>> Option left and right work fine here. Long shot, did you set the option >>>>>> key as the dictation shortcut? Should not be a conflict since you need >>>>>> to press the key twice. >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>>>>> Science is not only compatible with spirituality; >>>>>> it is a profound source of spirituality.| --Carl Sagan >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/25/2018 5:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> One of the things I did over the weekend was to add Spanish as a second >>>>>>> keyboard language. I'm wondering if that's what's giving me the >>>>>>> trouble with the option key, so would like to try removing it. In >>>>>>> system Prefs, the option to add a language is very clear, but I see no >>>>>>> way to remove one once you've added it. Anyone know how to do this? I >>>>>>> tried Google, but found nothing. >>>>>>> TIA, >>>>>>> Donna >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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