thanks, Alex.  I'll check it out!
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jun 5, 2018, at 10:10 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> There are also a lot of recaps and summaries around the web. I wrote one for 
> AppleVis, but mine is far from the only one. Here's the link:
> https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-apple-tv-apple-watch-ios-macos-news/recap-wwdc-2018
>  
> <https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-apple-tv-apple-watch-ios-macos-news/recap-wwdc-2018>
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>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 18:12, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the info, Shawn.  I want to watch the actual event, but it'll 
>> probably be a couple of weeks before I have time.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well this year's WWDC blew me away. I think Voice Memos on the Mac will be 
>>> handy for those that can't afford expensive recording software. And group 
>>> FaceTime? I can see Apple giving Skype a run for its money in the 
>>> foreseeable future. All they would have to do is port it to other 
>>> platforms. Also, it looks like my prediction came true. iOS apps will be 
>>> able to run on Mac next year. I was disappointed that Siri was only getting 
>>> a small upgrade with the shortcuts feature, but all in all, I was very 
>>> impressed.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My New MacBook Air
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>>  
>>>> Really its up to the individual.
>>>>  
>>>> For me, not really,
>>>>  
>>>> But guess it might change when updates come out in third quarter
>>>>  
>>>> Most of what I heard about isn’t really stuff we will benefit from down 
>>>> under,
>>>> You in the USA will,
>>>> Especially TV OS 
>>>> You can still watch the recorded keynote on line or through you’re a TV
>>>>  
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2018 12:33 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: WWDC?
>>>>  
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>  
>>>> I wasn't able to catch the WWDC keynote.  Did they announce anything 
>>>> interesting?
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> On Jun 3, 2018, at 2:29 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>>> <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hi all. I'd like to share with you an article I wrote earlier this evening 
>>>> for my radio show called Accessibility Matters. For those of you that 
>>>> don't know what it is, Accessibility Matters is a radio show I created 
>>>> that talks about Accessibility and its issues in the community. But 
>>>> sometimes on the show we talk about fun things like assistive technology 
>>>> and accessible apps. The show can be heard Thursdays at 11:00 AM central 
>>>> on 95.9 CKUW's website ckuw.ca <http://ckuw.ca/>. Alternatively I host a 
>>>> Whatsapp group for the show and every week I post episodes there. If you 
>>>> want to join it, email me privately and I'll send you the invite link. 
>>>> This article can be read as well on our Facebook page at 
>>>> facebook.com/accessibilitymattersradio 
>>>> <http://facebook.com/accessibilitymattersradio>. I welcome any comments 
>>>> you may have. So without further ado, here is the article.
>>>>  
>>>> WWDC 2018: Hopes and Predictions
>>>>  
>>>> It's the biggest 4 letters of the year. WWDC starts Monday and we at 
>>>> Accessibility Matters are excited for the big day. Well, I don't know 
>>>> about Melissa, but I sure as heck am. Here are some predictions we, I mean 
>>>> I am looking forward to seeing.
>>>>  
>>>> Hopes
>>>>  
>>>> 1. Implementation Of The Siri Voices System Wide On macOS
>>>>  
>>>> Since iOS 9, Apple has made it possible to use the Siri voices for 
>>>> Voiceover and other system wide features that use speech. In 2016, Apple 
>>>> introduced macOS Sierra which brought the virtual assistant into the 
>>>> Macintosh environment. However, access to the voices system wide wasn't 
>>>> possible which is the case today. We on the Mac don't get the voices that 
>>>> PC users do such as Neospeech, Ivona, or the now debunked Innoetics. For 
>>>> 3rd party TTS providers, we only get Nuance, Acapela, Cereproc or Cepstral 
>>>> which I don't recommend anyone try unless they want to crash their 
>>>> computer. So on Monday, I hope we can finally use the Siri voices system 
>>>> wide. I'd love to use the new female voice on my Mac. I sometimes take a 
>>>> break from her but I always gravitate back to her because she is the most 
>>>> natural sounding female voice on the iPhone. A lot of blind people like 
>>>> voices if they're responsive and while that's important to me as well, I 
>>>> like my voices as human sounding as they can be. So Apple, make it happen. 
>>>> If Windows 10 allows Jaws users to use the Cortana voice whose name is 
>>>> Eva, then let us use the Siri voices on the Mac.
>>>>  
>>>> 2. If Siri Voices Still Can't Be Used, Give Us More Voices
>>>>  
>>>> If we still can't use the Siri voices system wide, then I hope the new 
>>>> voices that Nuance introduced two years ago will finally make their debut 
>>>> on Apple devices. Two years ago, Nuance introduced 5 new voices: Evelyn, 
>>>> Nathan and Zoe who are US voices, Malcom who is a British voice, and 
>>>> Rishi, an Indian English voice. These voices with the exception of Evelyn 
>>>> can be used with both NVDA and Jaws. You can download them for free with 
>>>> Jaws 17 and up, but you have to pay for them with NVDA. And if these 
>>>> voices come to the Mac and possibly iOS, I hope we get the natural version 
>>>> of Zoe that I first heard on the Nuance website and not the version that 
>>>> Jaws and NVDA have. On the website, she sounded very human, but with the 
>>>> version that NVDA and Jaws have now, she sounds like she's bored and 
>>>> doesn't sound like she's interested. Don't bother checking the Nuance 
>>>> website now though, the demo that they have of her now is the same thing 
>>>> the two Windows screenreaders have.
>>>>  
>>>> 3. No Authentication Message When Mac Display Goes To Sleep
>>>>  
>>>> Do you ever find it annoying when you're reading something on your Mac and 
>>>> when your display goes to sleep, Voiceover interrupts the reading and 
>>>> says, "Authentication, login panel, user, image, authentication has new 
>>>> window?" Yeah. I find that annoying too. Especially when you're reading a 
>>>> long article. Sure, there are ways around it like using the speech feature 
>>>> in the edit menu or setting your screen not to go to sleep at all, but 
>>>> those work arounds shouldn't be needed. Besides, wouldn't that damage your 
>>>> screen over time if you had it on 24/7? I have two suggestions that could 
>>>> be done to eliminate this problem. 1, have Voiceover speak the prompt 
>>>> after it finishes what it's reading or 2, eliminate the message 
>>>> altogether. Implementing one of these changes will hopefully save 
>>>> Voiceover users both frustration and unnecessary trips to the Apple Store 
>>>> for repairs.
>>>>  
>>>> Predictions
>>>>  
>>>> 1. Platform Wide Usage of Apps
>>>>  
>>>> Since Tim Cook became CEO of Apple back in August of 2011, he has said 
>>>> time and time again that the iOS ecosystem will not be integrated into the 
>>>> Macintosh ecosystem and vice versa. However, with the rumors and articles 
>>>> that I've been reading, Apple might be changing their stance. If the 
>>>> rumors end up being true, I predict that macOS 10.14 which we don't know 
>>>> what it will be called and iOS 12 will have the ability to run apps from 
>>>> these operating systems. So for example, If you had macOS 10.14 installed 
>>>> and you wanted to play an iOS game like Dice World on your Mac, you'd just 
>>>> install that app on your computer and there you go. I'd for sure welcome 
>>>> that feature. I have video games on my phone and I'd love the ability to 
>>>> play those games on a bigger screen. Plus I think it would open up more 
>>>> opportunities for developers. The only thing I would hope that doesn't 
>>>> happen is that apps already on the Mac such as RS Games stop working. I 
>>>> don't have the money to give to Marty Schultz so I can keep playing my 
>>>> beloved RS Games.
>>>>  
>>>> 2. New iPads, Macs, And The New iPhone SE
>>>>  
>>>> According to Mac Rumors, alongside the announcements for the new OS's, we 
>>>> could see new iPads, Macs, and even the new 2nd generation iPhone SE. I'll 
>>>> be particularly interested in the new iPhone SE model. I'll be looking to 
>>>> see if this model uses touch ID or Face ID. My contract with Bell ends at 
>>>> the end of August so this will determine which phone I'll get. If the SE2 
>>>> has touch ID, I'll get that. If Face ID, I'll stick to my original plan of 
>>>> getting the 8 Plus.
>>>>  
>>>> Note: These predictions are just rumors I've been hearing these past 
>>>> months. They may not happen.
>>>>  
>>>> The big event starts Monday at 12:00 CT. You can watch it on any Mac 
>>>> running Sierra or above, any iPhone running iOS 10 and above, or on the 
>>>> Apple TV. For Windows, make sure you have the latest version of Internet 
>>>> Explorer or Microsoft Edge installed. You can watch it with the link 
>>>> below. I know we will be. I even have the snacks for this long exciting 
>>>> event. And if you have anything you'd like to see added, put it in the 
>>>> comments below. And stay tuned this fall because we will have reviews of 
>>>> all the operating systems on the Show.
>>>> https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2018/ 
>>>> <https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2018/>
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Shawn
>>>> Sent From My New MacBook Air
>>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com>
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