Hi Andy, It sounds to me like there is a mostly empty Desktop, with one Screen Shot file located on the Desktop. The mountain range is immaterial to this, other than it being a nice scene for your wife or other sighted person to view. The reason it just goes ding ding when you attempt to navigate around the Desktop is due to the fact that there is only the one file. So, as you try to navigate, there is actually nowhere to go. If that screen shot is of no value to you, then just move it to the Trash by pressing cmd-Delete when the file is selected. You will then have a totally blank Desktop. VO will still make the ding noise when you're on the Desktop,as there is nothing there to announce the presence of. You can then use regular VO navigation commands to open items from the Dock, or go up to the menubar etc.
Hope this makes sense. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Dec 4, 2017, at 09:40, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Tim and John. Thanks for your advice. Putting the password question to one side for a moment, as it's not really all that of an inconvenience, to have to sign into my computer on boot-up. Concerning the mountain range desktop background, this does make sence to me, as I upgraded both devices yesterday, when they both were using El Capitan, I suppose I can live with it being a total. However, this does not explaine the following message when the image appears: "LW Screenshot Portable network graphic image You are currently on a Portable Graphic Network Image."." Voice over does not tell you how to respond to this message as voice over normally does with other things and I cannot do anything to move away, such as Command W or Q or escape. . I don't think that all High Seera users are hearing this through Voice over as John would have recognised it. But it does refer to a Graphic Image, so I don't know. I only wish I could get rid of it, or better have no desktop background image at all, if this is what is causing this message. What do you guys think I can do? Very best wishes. Andy. >From Scotland with Love. ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim Kilburn <mailto:kilbu...@me.com> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:45 PM > Subject: Re: Imac and Macbook Pro problem > > Hi, > > The mountain scene is the High Sierra Desktop background/wall paper, so, yes, > you're on the Desktop of the Mac. Regarding the requirement of entering your > password upon restart, that can be changed, but I highly discourage that. It > is a minor inconvenience that allows for a small layer of security. For > example, if your house was unlawfully entered and your Mac was stolen, having > no password at all upon starting your Mac makes it very simple for the > culprit to gain access to all sorts of your personal information that is > stored on the Mac. Just that one password makes it a problem. For real good > security, there are many more steps you could take, but this little one is > the foundation and is a good start. > > I'll get off the soap-box now. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Dec 3, 2017, at 13:07, andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com > <mailto:meikle.ai...@btinternet.com>> wrote: > > Hi again John. > > I got my wife to view the Image and she advises that the whole screen has a > mounting scene on it, like a windows desk-top background image. > > Voice over still announced the description I mentioned in my previous message. > > I did a VO left arrow and it went away, and so did my wife to her bed > unfortunately, so no more help from her this evening > > She did say that it was asking me for a password as well. > > It seems that both my Imac and Mackbook Pro desire me to sign in every time I > restart the computers, which is a pain. > > I'll have another go tomorrow to see if I can get any more information. > > Thanks for your assistance. > > Very best wishes. > > Andy. > From Scotland with Love. > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: John Panarese <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 5:29 PM >> Subject: Re: Imac and Macbook Pro problem >> >> I can't see FaceTime causing a problem like this. I am not sure what the >> portable network graphic could be. Do you have a pair of eyes available to >> tell you what it's asking you? >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/> >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 12:27 PM, andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com >>> <mailto:meikle.ai...@btinternet.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Aleeha and John. >>> >>> I did several VO left arrow commands and reached a box saying Close Graphic >>> Image or something like that. >>> >>> I selected this with VO Spacebar and returned to the desktop, so I rebooted >>> and the same old message came up on boot up. >>> >>> A reason for this problem is probably associated with me trying this >>> morning, on my Macbook to make a Facetime contact with my Nephew in >>> Australia. >>> >>> I must have done something wrong. Any Ideas how to get rid of this please. >>> >>> Very best wishes. >>> >>> Andy. >>> From Scotland with Love >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: John Panarese <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com> >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 4:51 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Imac and Macbook Pro problem >>>> >>>> It sounds like you are simply on your desktop unless this is some kind >>>> of new system message. Can you go to the Dock with VO-d or command-tab? >>>> >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> >>>> John D. Panarese >>>> Director >>>> Mac for the Blind >>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> >>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/> >>>> >>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer >>>> >>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>> >>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 11:50 AM, andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com >>>>> <mailto:meikle.ai...@btinternet.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all. >>>>> >>>>> Just when I was coming to grips with my Macbook and Imac, after learing >>>>> how to use Facetime, I got what I think was an upgrade. This is because >>>>> I've not used either device for some time. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, when I start both my Imack and my Macbook Pro, I'm getting the >>>>> following message and Voice over does not tell me what to do about it. >>>>> >>>>> Message: >>>>> >>>>> LW Screenshot >>>>> Portable network graphic image >>>>> >>>>> You are currently on a Portable Graphic Network Image. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know that the computer wishes me to do. >>>>> >>>>> Any answers pleas. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Very best wishes. >>>>> >>>>> Andy. >>>>> From Scotland with Love. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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