Hi Tim and John.

Thanks for your advice.

Putting the password question to one side for a moment, as it's not really all 
that of an inconvenience, to have to sign into my computer on boot-up.

Concerning the mountain range desktop background, this does make sence to me, 
as I upgraded both devices yesterday, when they both were using El Capitan, I 
suppose I can live with it being a total.  However, this does not explaine the 
following message when the image appears:

"LW  Screenshot
Portable network graphic image


You are currently on a Portable Graphic Network Image."."

Voice over does not tell you how to respond to this message as voice over 
normally does with other things and I cannot do anything to move away, such as 
Command W or Q or escape.
.



I don't think that all High Seera users are hearing this through Voice over as 
John would have recognised it.  But it does refer to a Graphic Image, so I 
don't know.

I only wish I could get rid of it, or better have no desktop background image 
at all, if this is what is causing this message.

What do you guys think I can do?

Very best wishes.

Andy.
>From Scotland with Love.









 ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:45 PM
  Subject: Re: Imac and Macbook Pro problem


  Hi,


  The mountain scene is the High Sierra Desktop background/wall paper, so, yes, 
you're on the Desktop of the Mac.  Regarding the requirement of entering your 
password upon restart, that can be changed, but I highly discourage that.  It 
is a minor inconvenience that allows for a small layer of security.  For 
example, if your house was unlawfully entered and your Mac was stolen, having 
no password at all upon starting your Mac makes it very simple for the culprit 
to gain access to all sorts of your personal information that is stored on the 
Mac.  Just that one password makes it a problem.  For real good security, there 
are many more steps you could take, but this little one is the foundation and 
is a good start.


  I'll get off the soap-box now.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada 


  On Dec 3, 2017, at 13:07, andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:


  Hi again John.

  I got my wife to view the Image  and she advises that the whole screen has a 
mounting scene on it, like a windows desk-top background image.

  Voice over still announced the description I mentioned in my previous message.

  I did a VO left arrow and it went away, and so did my wife to her bed 
unfortunately, so no more help from her this evening

  She did say that it was asking me for a password as well.

  It seems that both my Imac and Mackbook Pro desire me to sign in every time I 
restart the computers, which is a pain.

  I'll have another go tomorrow to see if I can get any more information.

  Thanks for your assistance.

  Very best wishes.

  Andy.
  From Scotland with Love.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: John Panarese
    To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 5:29 PM
    Subject: Re: Imac and Macbook Pro problem


       I can't see FaceTime causing a problem like this. I am not sure what the 
portable network graphic could be. Do you have a pair of eyes available to tell 
you what it's asking you?



    Take Care

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      On Dec 3, 2017, at 12:27 PM, andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:


      Hi Aleeha  and John.

      I did several VO left arrow commands and reached a box saying Close 
Graphic Image or something like that.

      I selected this with VO Spacebar and returned to the desktop, so I 
rebooted and the same old message came up on boot up.

      A reason for this problem is probably associated with me trying this 
morning, on my Macbook to make a Facetime contact with my Nephew in Australia.

      I must have done something wrong.  Any Ideas how to get rid of this 
please.

      Very best wishes.

      Andy.
      From Scotland with Love





      ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: John Panarese
        To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
        Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 4:51 PM
        Subject: Re: Imac and Macbook Pro problem


           It sounds like you are simply on your desktop unless this is some 
kind of new system message. Can you go to the Dock with VO-d or command-tab?



        Take Care

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        Director
        Mac for the Blind
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          On Dec 3, 2017, at 11:50 AM, andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:


          Hi all.

          Just when I was coming to grips with my Macbook and Imac, after 
learing how to use Facetime, I got what I think was an upgrade.  This is 
because I've not used either device for some time.

          Anyway, when I start both my Imack and my Macbook Pro, I'm getting 
the following message and Voice over does not tell me what to do about it.

          Message:

          LW  Screenshot
          Portable network graphic image


          You are currently on a Portable Graphic Network Image.


          I don't know that the computer wishes me to do.


          Any answers pleas.


          Thanks.


          Very best wishes.


          Andy.
          From Scotland with Love.




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