Thanks for posting this, Jonathan.  The truth is that I'm kind of meh about 
High Sierra.  I haven't heard anyone rave about how wonderful it is.  If I can 
get rid of this stupid bloody notification, I may just delay a while.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Nov 18, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, the upgrade to High Sierra for me was not as smooth as the last two 
> upgrades. 
> 
> Basic information:
> mid 2015 MacBookAir 11 inch with all upgrades possible.
> File Vault installed.
> 
> I started the upgrade but was on a network that was not performing well at 
> first so I believe most of my issues were related to that.
> 
> 1. After waiting a bit after clicking the restart button, I came back and my 
> Macintosh was saying "Installer has no windows". That was all VoiceOver would 
> say.
> 
> I got my wife to look at the screen and it said installation had failed, and 
> I needed to power off and then power back on. I needed to do not just a power 
> on but a power on with command-R clicked. At this point I was prompted for 
> installing High Sierra and proceeded. My wife actually did the work from the 
> recovery partition and so VoiceOver was not turned on for the process.
> After about 20 minutes the system rebooted and prompted for file vault access 
> but I could not get File Vault prompts to speak. So it was back to my wife. 
> After putting in passwords installation process phase 2 started and ran for 
> about 35 minutes. I was able to turn on VoiceOver after about 2 minutes of 
> this installation and everything went smoothly for me from there.
> 
> First observations, I was surprised that SIRI did not have permission for my 
> location and that Facebook did. In general I really don't like Facebook 
> knowing that much information about me. I also noticed when I was in the 
> privacy settings that the selected item in a table seemed to become 
> unselected when I moved around a bit causing me to have to re-find the 
> application I wanted to review options for. This might have changed once I 
> adjusted VoiceOver navigation options. 
> Also was a little disappointed at the reduced number of options in the 
> Navigation area of VoiceOver utility. Though I will review what folks were 
> saying about mouse clicks now that I am on this system, and see what happens 
> in various modes.
> 
> 
> I like the ability to directly enter values into sliders though the interface 
> seems to need a little cleanup. I'll write later about my views on this but 
> obviously the only way to get results is to provide appropriate feedback 
> directly to Apple.
> 
> HTH those still waiting to upgrade,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
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