Wow!  Sounds like you really had a time of it, John.  I’m sorry to hear that.

As for me, when I upgraded, my only problem was that the computer did not 
acknowledge that I had already signed into iCloud successfully.  I am certain 
this had to do with issues with the video driver.  In other words, while I 
could see that I was signed into iCloud successfully, the computer kept 
prompting me to enter my credentials.  

The solution was simply to force shutdown the Mac.  Upon reboot, all worked as 
expected.  

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Upgrade to High Sierra.

Well, the upgrade to High Sierra for me was not as smooth as the last two 
upgrades. 

Basic information:
mid 2015 MacBookAir 11 inch with all upgrades possible.
File Vault installed.

I started the upgrade but was on a network that was not performing well at 
first so I believe most of my issues were related to that.

1. After waiting a bit after clicking the restart button, I came back and my 
Macintosh was saying "Installer has no windows". That was all VoiceOver would 
say.

I got my wife to look at the screen and it said installation had failed, and I 
needed to power off and then power back on. I needed to do not just a power on 
but a power on with command-R clicked. At this point I was prompted for 
installing High Sierra and proceeded. My wife actually did the work from the 
recovery partition and so VoiceOver was not turned on for the process.
After about 20 minutes the system rebooted and prompted for file vault access 
but I could not get File Vault prompts to speak. So it was back to my wife. 
After putting in passwords installation process phase 2 started and ran for 
about 35 minutes. I was able to turn on VoiceOver after about 2 minutes of this 
installation and everything went smoothly for me from there.

First observations, I was surprised that SIRI did not have permission for my 
location and that Facebook did. In general I really don't like Facebook knowing 
that much information about me. I also noticed when I was in the privacy 
settings that the selected item in a table seemed to become unselected when I 
moved around a bit causing me to have to re-find the application I wanted to 
review options for. This might have changed once I adjusted VoiceOver 
navigation options. 
Also was a little disappointed at the reduced number of options in the 
Navigation area of VoiceOver utility. Though I will review what folks were 
saying about mouse clicks now that I am on this system, and see what happens in 
various modes.


I like the ability to directly enter values into sliders though the interface 
seems to need a little cleanup. I'll write later about my views on this but 
obviously the only way to get results is to provide appropriate feedback 
directly to Apple.

HTH those still waiting to upgrade,

Jonathan Cohn


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