Hi, Yeah, sideways is a good assessment. I believe that I have an understanding of what's actually happening, but have yet to come up with any real solution. It's kind of related to how notifications interrupt speaking and such but, in this case it is the Login panel from the Security Server I believe. It seems to perform better in iOS than on the Mac itself, but I still can't totally isolate it to come up with a good fix. I need to speak with someone who has a better knowledge of the underlying activities that are happening.
Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 31, 2017, at 11:33, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: Interesting. I guess that knocks the thing sideways. For a while I wondered if the issue was on non SSD drives which are formatted to APDS. Apparently not. >From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/31/2017 10:27 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi ET, > For fun, I just did a clean install on a brand new external SSD. The problem > persists. I will speak with a few of my contacts and see if I can get > anywhere. > Later... > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Oct 31, 2017, at 09:03, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > For me it was in fact fixed. As I stated, a clean install and no migration > may have been the solution. High Sierra has its own issues but this is not > one of them. > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . > "God for you is where you sweep away all the > mysteries of the world, all the challenges to > our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off > and say God did it." --Carl Sagan > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > On 10/31/2017 7:48 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: >> Hi ET, >> This has been going on since Sierra on my mac book air. >> Tech support said that it would be fixed a year ago! >> "God does not play dice with the universe" >> "Albert Einstein’ >> On Oct 31, 2017, at 10:41 AM, E.T. wrote: >>> Hopefully everyone is emailing Apple Accessibility with this. I have yet >>> to see this. I did not use Migration Assistant when I did the clean >>> install, not sure if that is why. Be interesting to learn what Apple says. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>> On 10/31/2017 2:53 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: >>>> It happens when you are reading or when the computer is idle, Voiceover >>>> will announce this window. I did a clean install and it still happens. >>>> Andrew >>>>> On Oct 31, 2017, at 6:39 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> And is it only happening with web pages? >>>>> >>>>> I have a funny feeling I struck this with sierra and needed a sighted >>>>> colleague to click something to get rid of it. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2017 4:22 PM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Irritating "user authentication" window that is hidden but >>>>> talks and interrupt continuous reading >>>>> >>>>> Mary, >>>>> Help us. How about a web page (in English) where this happens. Does it >>>>> only happen in web pages and emails? >>>>> >>>>> Did you do a clean install or did you upgrade over Sierra? >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>> On 10/30/2017 8:09 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>> Well, if anybody cares, I set my Mac to go to sleep after three hours. >>>>>> It had been set to never. And I said the screen saver to kick in after >>>>>> 1 hour. I shut down the machine and restarted it. And still, if I start >>>>>> reading a long email or an article, within about two minutes or so, I >>>>>> get that damn announcement. This is really unusable. I've gone from busy >>>>>> busy on Sierra to this. I'm just about done with a Mac. If I can't get >>>>>> basic tasks done efficiently, windows here I come. It's really a shame. >>>>>> Because Apple bills nice machines. And the phones are great, and I love >>>>>> how the Mac on the phone sink etc. But come on. How hard should it be to >>>>>> allow people to just simply read things? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017, at 3:14 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You'd think so, but, it seems that the Security Server is still called >>>>>>> up and the authentication window rears its ugly head. Try a long time, >>>>>>> but not the "Never" option and see if that helps at all. I've been >>>>>>> trying to see if I can localize the Security Server and create an >>>>>>> activity, but haven't made a lot of progress yet. Lots of "nice try >>>>>>> Tim", but nothing tangible yet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Later... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017, at 13:07, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Tim, but if I have it set not to go to sleep, shouldn't that solve >>>>>>> the problem? Maybe there are two settings? Maybe I'm missing one. >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017, at 11:47 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What's happening here is that the authentication layer, which is >>>>>>>> invisible to the sighted user, is activating. When your computer >>>>>>>> screen is set to sleep after a certain amount of time, or if it is set >>>>>>>> to lock after a certain amount of time, authentication will take over >>>>>>>> and require a password to allow someone access to the computer. If >>>>>>>> you disable this level of security, it seems that the authentication >>>>>>>> layer initially still activates, but it does not lock down your >>>>>>>> computer. Because the authentication layer was activated, VO >>>>>>>> announces that this window gained focus, and, of course, this >>>>>>>> announcement interrupts whatever you're listening to. extending the >>>>>>>> time of the screen sleep or scree saver will reduce the incidence of >>>>>>>> this announcement. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Later... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017, at 12:07, Robert Cole <mr.robertc...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> Try changing the time that the screen goes to sleep. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>> With my Mac on High Sierra, I am having VoiceOver interrupt >>>>>>>>> continuous reading on webpages every so often with a text that says >>>>>>>>> user authentication window. Now if I envoke window chooser, this >>>>>>>>> window is not evident. So I guess it's hidden or something. 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