Your comment begs the question, what to you is camping?  Of course, you don't 
have to answer. I just get a kick out of those who say they love camping then 
find out their perception of camping is staying in a cottage.  Our handyman 
told us his girlfriend at the time said she loved camping.  After they got 
married he found out her idea was living in an R V, his was tenting and cooking 
on an open fire. The next girlfriend, her idea of a vacation was living in a 
gated community.  His comment, "Why not just go to prison, then."    

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: August 31, 2017 5:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using my iphone on a camping trip

    I reckon our perception of "camping" is dated, sadly.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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   mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
   our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
   and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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On 8/31/2017 4:35 PM, David & his pack of dogs wrote:
> The one thing I've learned over the years is.  The term camping is subjective 
> at best. To some, taking a R V to a national park or private campground, is 
> camping where they never leave the RV accept to go into the local pub or 
> restaurant to eat, with others, they don't leave the cottage.  Then there are 
> those who hike into a clearing in the woods and set up a carry-in tent. Some 
> camp for 2 days, others for 2 weeks.  Others live on hot dogs, chips and 
> beer, leave their garbage and call that camping.  It is all subjective.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todor Fassl
> Sent: August  31, 2017 4:19 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com; E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
> Subject: Re: Using my iphone on a camping trip
> 
> I will bet my house you have never been on a camping trip with a guide dog. I 
> didn't ask for help with my guide dog. I have an excellent guide dog and way 
> above average OEM skills. I'm very active in the blind community and with 
> guide dog users in particular and I know this for to be a fact. There isn't a 
> guide dog on this planet that isn't going to have trouble in the woods. There 
> are a million distractions and no clear paths. If you are going to tell me 
> you have taken your guide dog on camping trips and he performed flawlessly, I 
> am going to call you a liar. On top of all that, I didn't ask for help with 
> my f'in guide dog.
> 
> PS: You still owe me an apology from the lst time you and I tangled.
> 
> 
> On 08/31/2017 01:25 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>     How about just "follow your dog"? Its not impossible. And its not 
>> Eat, its E.T.
>>
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>    "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>    mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>    our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>    and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>> On 8/31/2017 11:16 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:
>>> Hey EAT,
>>> How about a tactual compass?
>>> This would point you and  the guide dog in the general direction and 
>>> when you get close the dog's training would kick in! :) Chuck 
>>> "Ancient Aliens" for the deluded, is when you brush aside all the 
>>> Beauty of the world, all the evidence that points to
>>>    Our intelligent Design. You ignorantly choose to ignore the 
>>> evidence! And belch out Ancient Aliens did it!"
>>> CR
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 2:06 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>>
>>>>     A little effort and a little bribery with the guide dog will 
>>>> work wonders. That is what they are trained for.
>>>>
>>>>   From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>    "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>>    mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>>    our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>    and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>
>>>> On 8/31/2017 11:00 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>>>> Well, you could go old tech and just ask for help. Honestly, 
>>>>> technology has it's limits and sometimes there's just no 
>>>>> substitute for a friendly smile and  asking for help. And, it 
>>>>> offers certain possibilities not available on your phone.
>>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Todor Fassl <fassl....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going on a camping and rock climbing trip with a group called 
>>>>>> Adaptive Adventures. Last year, I had some trouble getting lost 
>>>>>> in the camp grounds. Like if I wanted to get to the bathroom on 
>>>>>> my own I would always get kind of lost. I have a guide dog but 
>>>>>> he'd get confused as to what I wanted him to do. I was hoping 
>>>>>> some people could give me some tips on using technology to help 
>>>>>> me with stuff. Any ideas what so ever are acceptable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an iphone 5s, a Macbook Pro, and an old ipod Touch. The 
>>>>>> iphone is running the latest version of IOS. It's slow but it 
>>>>>> works. I am willing to buy some new stuff although it is probably 
>>>>>> too late to update my phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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