I had a bunch of very cool Sparcs when I ran my ISP. Sparc 20 hardware was pretty exciting at the time. I had it loaded up with Ross processors and memory chugging away on NNTP. The coolest hardware I ever worked with from Sun was the E10K. It was so cool changing processors while the machine was booted, everything was hot swappable.
Ah, that’s back when computing was fun.:) > On Jun 30, 2017, at 1:45 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > A simple dash may work as well. I don't know. > > Man, I miss Sun hardware! Can't say I miss Sun OS particularly, but they > built some fun hardware in their day. > > Scott Granados writes: >> I started using the dash flag back in the Solaris / SunOS days and have >> stuck with it. I will have to try your method. >> >> >>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:11 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Well, according to Wikipedia, it seems we're all correct: >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_(Unix) >>> >>> >>> PS: To become another user I generally do: >>> >>> su -u [user] -i >>> >>> This insures I get the same environment that user gets on login-- the -i >>> flag. Frankly, I don't know whether that works the same on BSD or not. >>> >>> Janina >>> >>> Jonathan Cohn writes: >>>> I just verified from the Free BSD man pages and su is described as >>>> "substitute user identity". >>>> >>>> So, if you are comfortable with terminal and share a machine with somebody, >>>> then the command: >>>> sudo su somebody - >>>> >>>> will give you permission to see all that person's files. Of course any >>>> encrypted files like the keychain or one password crypt will still not be >>>> available to you. But all other files when accessed will look like they >>>> were accessed by somebody. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 29 June 2017 at 11:37, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Let’s call it even, you just hipped me to the proper verbiage around su >>>>> and I hipped you back with the command n new window shortcut. Sounds like >>>>> a fair trade. >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:31 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries < >>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Here we go -- I've been doing it the hard way! <grin> >>>>>> >>>>>> Could I have noticed that? Probably. Did I? Not until you burned it into >>>>>> my sometimes slow noggin! <grin> >>>>>> >>>>>> Janina >>>>>> >>>>>> Scott Granados writes: >>>>>>> Or, if it’s easier, just do a command n for a new window and one will >>>>> automatically open. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:20 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries < >>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And, when you get the "has no Windows" message, just open one. Do VO+m, >>>>>>>> and go to File then Open. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Scott Granados writes: >>>>>>>>> Just for the less experienced on the list, terminal is just dropping >>>>> you to a unix shell. When you hear people talk about unix this is simply >>>>> a >>>>> flavor of it that the pretty pictures part of Mac OS runs over. It’s an >>>>> extremely powerful environment and also a well paying career path if you >>>>> learn the Unix based operating systems. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 12:36 AM, Sharon Hooley <shoole...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> okay, I had success! And now, for even more of a kick, does anyone >>>>> know how to make it say just anything you want to print command? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fun stuff, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 2:51 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Last I ran Terminal, I simply pasted code in and pressed enter. In >>>>> some cases you may be asked for your log in password. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>>>>>>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>>>>>>>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>>>>>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/27/2017 1:48 PM, Sharon Hooley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I want to try copying and pasting the coding that was sent >>>>> earlier. I found Terminal in the “others” folder. when I entered I found >>>>> my last log-in date, among other things, including shell . I don’t know >>>>> where to type or paste. . Then I inadvertently closed the window so that >>>>> it said, “Terminal has no windows”. 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