I started using the dash flag back in the Solaris / SunOS days and have stuck 
with it.  I will have to try your method.


> On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:11 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, according to Wikipedia, it seems we're all correct:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_(Unix)
> 
> 
> PS: To become another user I generally do:
> 
> su -u [user] -i
> 
> This insures I get the same environment that user gets on login-- the -i
> flag. Frankly, I don't know whether that works the same on BSD or not.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Jonathan Cohn writes:
>> I just verified from the Free BSD man pages and su is described as
>> "substitute user identity".
>> 
>> So, if you are comfortable with terminal and share a machine with somebody,
>> then the command:
>> sudo su somebody -
>> 
>> will give you permission to see all that person's files. Of course any
>> encrypted files like the keychain or one password crypt will still not be
>> available to you. But all other files when accessed will look like they
>> were accessed by somebody.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 29 June 2017 at 11:37, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Let’s call it even, you just hipped me to the proper verbiage around su
>>> and I hipped you back with the command n new window shortcut.  Sounds like
>>> a fair trade.
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:31 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Here we go -- I've been doing it the hard way! <grin>
>>>> 
>>>> Could I have noticed that? Probably. Did I? Not until you burned it into
>>>> my sometimes slow noggin! <grin>
>>>> 
>>>> Janina
>>>> 
>>>> Scott Granados writes:
>>>>> Or, if it’s easier, just do a command n for a new window and one will
>>> automatically open.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:20 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <
>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And, when you get the "has no Windows" message, just open one. Do VO+m,
>>>>>> and go to File then Open.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scott Granados writes:
>>>>>>> Just for the less experienced on the list, terminal is just dropping
>>> you to a unix shell.  When you hear people talk about unix this is simply a
>>> flavor of it that the pretty pictures part of Mac OS runs over.  It’s an
>>> extremely powerful environment and also a well paying career path if you
>>> learn the Unix based operating systems.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 12:36 AM, Sharon Hooley <shoole...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> okay, I had success!  And now, for even more of a kick, does anyone
>>> know how to make it say just anything you want to print command?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Fun stuff,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 2:51 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Last I ran Terminal, I simply pasted code in and pressed enter. In
>>> some cases you may be asked for your log in password.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>>>>>>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>>>>>>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
>>>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 6/27/2017 1:48 PM, Sharon Hooley wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I want to try copying and pasting the coding that was sent
>>> earlier.  I found Terminal in the “others” folder.  when I entered I found
>>> my last log-in date, among other things, including shell .  I don’t know
>>> where to type or paste.  .  Then I inadvertently closed the window so that
>>> it said, “Terminal has no windows”.  So how, exactly, do I use it to put in
>>> code?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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