I can confirm your findings, but I don't know that I would consider it to be a bug. When you expand the thread, it is as it was in the old mail app. It always put the newest message first. In the new app, when I want to read a thread, I don't expand it first. I tap the collapsed thread, it opens, usually, with the oldest message at the top. I do a two-finger swipe down to read it, and when it finishes reading that message, I do a one-finger swipe down, it goes to the next message and reads it. The only time I expand a thread is when I want to delete an individual message, as opposed to deleting the entire thread, which, unfortunately, seems to be the only deleting method from within the thread.
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John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10 > On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:40 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This is the behaviour in MacMail, if I am understanding you correctly. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 17/09/2016, at 20:06, Robert Hill <molliesda...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> Yes, I can confirm this bug. >> I had posted to the v-phone list with this issue earlier this week. >> >> A work-around I found is to double tap on the thread to open it, not go to >> the actions and expand the thread. >> When I double tap to open the thread, then when I flick down with one >> finger, the oldest message in the thread is at the top as I would expect. >> Then what I do is go through the actions, find the message item, then I can >> flick down through the messages, and read them by double tapping them,. >> >> Bob Hill >> >>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:36 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> There have been so many posts sent lately that I have lost track so please >>> indulge me in asking for confirmation of a very annoying bug in the native >>> iOS 10 Mail app, regarding the threaded view. >>> >>> Here are my major settings for Mail. >>> >>> Preview, None. >>> Organize by Thread, On. >>> Most Recent Message on Top, Off. >>> Complete Thread, Off. >>> >>> Here are the steps I take to read threads: >>> >>> 1. >>> Open the Mail app. >>> >>> 2. >>> Place focus on a collapsed thread. >>> >>> 3. >>> Select Expand Thread via the VoiceOver Rotor. At this point, the thread >>> expands downward. >>> >>> 4. >>> Now, I single-finger swipe to the right in order to move to the first >>> message listed below the subject line of the thread and, as is expected, the >>> text of the message is read, out by VoiceOver. >>> >>> The problem is that, regardless of the status of the, "Most Recent Message >>> on Top", toggle, the first message just below the thread's subject line is >>> always the most recent post to the thread. As a consequence, if I want to >>> read the original post to a thread, I have to swipe all the way down to the >>> bottom of the list area and reverse swipe back up. >>> >>> Does this make sense and are any of you encountering this issue? >>> >>> Again, thank you for your indulgence on this. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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