I’ve been using the IOS beta for two months and now with the actual release I’m 
finding a couple of oddities but nothing that I’d lose my cool over,

No OS that gets released is bug proof just feedback to the develpers what your 
finding and then see what happens.

I’ve found one little issue with mail otherwise I’m not seeing any thing I 
don’t like thus far.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Friday, 16 September 2016 1:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

Excuse me, Cheree.  that was profoundly disrespectful, not to mention downright 
insulting to us devs, me being one of them.  Let me tell you something.  We 
devs did! try getting on Apple about stuff like this.  I did so in iOS 9, and I 
even more so did in this iOS 10 update beta cycle.  Trust me.  I was on the 10 
beta from June 30th, when it was announced at WWDC until now.  I've ever since 
had at least one of my devices on 10.

I've reported bug after bug after bug to them.  I've worked countless hours to 
the sweat of my brow! trying to explain these things to them, but no sollution 
was ever made.  So don't be putting the blame on us devs, OK?  We've done our 
damdest! to make this new version of OSX, TVOS, Watch OS, and iOS as  wonderful 
as possible.  The thing is, once we make the bug reports through the 
bugreporter bug tracker, we really don't then have much of a say past that 
point.  If Apple fixes it, great, if not, well, we've done our parts by 
reporting it.

Now, if us devs just saw the bug and ignored it, then therefore it was released 
buggy, then, I'd totally give this message to you, but, hunttauhh.  I'm not 
lettin' you have this.  I'm sorry.  Us devs deserve more credit, and respect!  
We really, really really did try!

Can another person on this list who's a dev and paid the 99 for the iOS 10 
cycle please speak up and advocate for us all here as well?  This is just wrong!
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----- Original Message -----
From: Cheree Heppe<mailto:che...@dogsc4me.com>
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

You developers and designers, changers and alter era can flick yourselves into 
you-know-where regarding this change to mail on iOS.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:27, David Chittenden 
<dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Correct, the way messages are handled has changed. Visually, it now looks much 
more like mail on the mac. It also works more like macmail.

When in the main message list, individual messages are still handled the same 
as in iOS 9. Threads are different. If one double-taps on a thread to activate 
it, one goes into a browse thread view. In this view, single-finger vertical 
flick moves up and down through the messages. Single-finger horrizontal flicks 
read through the specific message. Double-tap on the delete button at the 
bottom of the screen deletes all messages in the thread. Three-finger 
horrizontal flick moves between threads, threads and individual messages which 
do not belong to threads, and individual messages. In other words, the same as 
single-finger horrizontal flick in the message list screen.

If one wishes to delete only some messages from a thread, the thread must be 
expanded. Whilst in the main message screen, single-finger vertical flick to 
expand thread and double-tap. Now, the thread is unpacked and all the messages 
in the thread are treated like non-thread messages. Now that I have become used 
to this new system, I really like it. It took me a few hours of frustration to 
become used to this new system.

I am hoping that, as Apple continues merging the behaviours of apps for iOS and 
Mac, that we will see a full Mac-based iPad. I love touch-screen and want my 
touch-screen Mac, or the equivalent.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 16/09/2016, at 10:09, Phil Halton 
<philh...@gmail.com<mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
message threading seems to have changed substantially in IOS10. I can no longer 
3 finger flick from message to message in a thread, instead I have to use the 
“pre and next” message buttons. Also, the list of messages in a thread no 
longer appears, but instead I am thrown into the first message in the thread 
and then have to navigate between messages using the next and pre message 
buttons. What a screw up this is! is 3 finger flicking from message to message 
gone in ios10?
Also how about the thread message list? is that gone too? or are there some 
settings that need tweaking?


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