The whole thing basically turned out to be a non event with some looking for click bate out of the deal.
I bet similar arguments happened when the jack was reduced from quarter inch to 8th inch or when we started using 3 prong plugs instead of 2. (try plugging something in modern in my mother’s house, you need an adapter lol) I’ll date my self but anyone remember when phones switched from the 4 pin open connectors to the RJ-11? How about round tube records to flat records, wire to tape. Oh man could you imagine if this was 30 years ago and the argument would have been VHS verses Beta and the wrong one ended up being the standard. Or the whole bluerey verses the other one that we don’t even remember any more. Ah well, people need to generate traffic for their blogs and look important. > On Sep 9, 2016, at 5:36 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Change always elicits reactions like this. I am sure we all can think of > many things that provoked similar reaction. Perhaps if a survey was taken > where people were asked at what date would they like to see change stopped, > the responses would be as numerous as the sand on the beach. > > There are changes happening that are much more important and critical than > the loss of a headphone jack. But I will leave it at that. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 9/9/2016 2:20 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> Hi! >> Hmm, he seems to be having a problematic atitude imho. >> But its his problem. >> /AS >>> On 9 Sep 2016, at 01:23, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> Like Tim I have remained silent, waiting for what others in the industry >>> expressed about the headphone jack. >>> The article below indicates that yes only Apple could do this...but >>> frankly there is little reason for it to be done. I found particularly >>> interesting the weak nature of the lightning port in terms of popping out >>> of the phone if stressed, the less than stellar quality of both bluetooth >>> and wireless headphones, at least if you care about sound quality, how >>> quality could be achieved while keeping the jack, and most interesting for >>> those using audio, you cannot charge the phone and listen at the same time. >>> If it impacts music, will it also impact voiceover? >>> Article is below. I leave it to others here for comments if any. >>> As the iPhone's headphone jack dies, Apple wins and you lose >>> By Caleb Denison -- September 7, 2016 4:09 PM >>> >>> As predicted, Apple just killed off the headphone jack in the new >>> iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus. The familiar and universal 3.5mm >>> headphone jack -- also known as the 1/8-inch headphone jack and >>> TS jack -- is nowhere to be found on its new phones. Apple >>> wheeled out plenty of rationalizations for the decision, but at >>> the end of the day, it was a bad call, and a step back for the >>> forward-thinking tech giant. >>> >>> We're talking about the same mini plug which was first used in >>> Sony's EFM-117J transistor radio in 1964, and which was >>> popularized for portable personal electronics with the original >>> Sony Walkman, released in 1979. The tech behind it goes back over >>> 100 years, and we've been buying and collecting wired headphones >>> using this connector for over 36 years now. While Apple hasn't >>> left wired headphones completely in the dust, it has made >>> connecting them to its latest phones a big hassle. >>> >>> We did it because ... >>> >>> Apple Senior Vice President of Worldwide Marketing Phil Schiller >>> boiled the decision to kill the headphone jack down to one word: >>> courage. >>> >>> Yeah. That's one way to put it. Another might be: gamble. >>> >>> Apple has done something it's never done before: alienating >>> millions of people. >>> Apple says it has a long-term vision for audio, which is >>> impressive considering it doesn't seem like it's had any vision >>> for audio at all until it purchased Beats headphones in 2014. >>> Instead of killing the headphone jack, Apple could have made a >>> better sounding EarPod, improved the digital to analog converter >>> (DAC) in its headphones to support higher resolution audio files, >>> or beefed up the headphone amp for better overall sound for any >>> headphone. None of those options would have required adding any >>> new space-hogging components to the phone or required any radical >>> redesigns, though it may have cost more. Know what it wouldn't >>> have required? Courage. >>> >>> Regardless, Apple had opportunities to take audio more seriously, >>> but it didn't. How new, exactly, is this audio vision? >>> Schiller also pointed to the Lightning connector. "From the >>> start, we designed Lighting to be a great digital audio >>> connector," he said before pivoting toward an example of new >>> headphones ready to use the digital plug, the JBL Reflex Aware, >>> noting they require no battery to charge, since the iPhone >>> provides all the power. It may be true that the Lightning port is >>> meant to be a great digital connector, but that has nothing to do >>> with ditching the analog component. Android phones use the micro >>> USB plug as a digital connector, but they still have their 3.5mm >>> headphone jacks on board. >>> Finally, Schiller, after taking a moment to poke fun at the >>> century-old 3.5mm jack like it was some cute, tech-averse >>> grandma, pointed at space considerations as a third motivating >>> factor. "Our smartphones are packed with technologies and we all >>> want more." Apple says it needed space, and needed it right away. >>> "When you have a vision of how the audio experience can be, you >>> want to get there as fast as you can and make it as great as it >>> can be." To be fair, there's some truth in there somewhere. As a >>> tech-obsessed public, we do want more. We expect more. And >>> perhaps Apple did need the space. Or maybe the phone doesn't >>> have to be quite so thin? >>> >>> Headphones of the future >>> >>> To work with its new headphone jackless phones, Apple introduced >>> two new Apple-branded products, three lines of wireless Beats >>> headphones, and some new wireless tech to drive it all. The new >>> Apple EarPods remained wired, but simply use the Lightning >>> connector now. As such, they'll be outfitted with a DAC/headphone >>> amp and will draw power from the phone, ultimately reducing its >>> battery life, though perhaps not much more than when the same >>> components were located inside the phone. >>> >>> >>> Apple also introduced the AirPods, completely wireless in-ear >>> headphones that look a lot like golf tees sticking out of your >>> ears when worn. They're powered by the new W1 wireless chip, >>> Apple's first ever proprietary wireless technology, which is >>> meant to make pairing easier than with Bluetooth. Battery life is >>> a relatively >>> impressive -- if still inadequate -- five hours per charge, with >>> an included charging cradle providing up to 24 hours of charge in >>> total. >>> Finally, Apple pointed to three series of Beats headphones which >>> would take advantage of the new W1 chip. Add them all up and you >>> have five Apple-specific headphone options, all of them squarely >>> planted in Apple's walled garden. Typical. Fortunately, companies >>> like Audeze are working hard to make Lightning connections an >>> option, not a requirement. >>> >>> We still don't know how Apple's new wireless tech will actually >>> sound, but if history is any indication, it will be "just OK." >>> >>> Take off the Apple goggles, already >>> >>> Apple may be showing a lot of cojones by blazing its own trail, >>> but once the Apple magic glitter starts to wear off, it becomes >>> clear Apple has done something it's never done before: alienating >>> millions of people. At a time when wireless headphones just can't >>> compete with their wired counterparts, this seems like a >>> radically premature move, if not an entirely short-sighted one. >>> >>> "Bluetooth is still no substitute for the rich audio experience >>> you get from a wired connection." >>> >>> This isn't like Apple's move from its 30-pin connector to >>> Lightning. On the other side of that cable is a standard USB >>> port, which means Apple's devices can easily be charged and >>> interfaced with by all kinds of peripherals. As for interfacing >>> with third-party peripherals, Apple made that move at a time when >>> people were already abandoning hard-dock connections in favor of >>> wireless options -- adapters were made available, but not really >>> necessary. By forcing people to connect headphones via Lightning, >>> Apple is trying to force headphone manufacturers to create an >>> additional, Apple-only model for every single headphone product >>> they already make. That's going to be a costly transition, and >>> one that will take time. If it takes at all. Maybe a big brand >>> like JBL can hack it, but what about all the other, smaller >>> headphone brands out there? >>> >>> Lightning is weak >>> >>> But Apple is including an adapter dongle, you say. People will >>> still be able to connect their old wired headphones if they want >>> to, and at no additional cost! >>> >>> Indeed, Apple was wise to include the lightning to 3.5mm adapter. >>> If it hadn't, the uproar would have been fierce. But this adapter >>> sounds like a last-minute move by Apple to save its ass. And it >>> probably isn't going to work. >>> >>> Ever tried to slip an iPhone connected to a charging battery into >>> a jacket pocket or hand bag? It eventually stops charging because >>> the Lightning connector pops right out of the phone -- it's worse >>> if you have a case on the phone. There's simply not enough >>> strength at that connection point to allow even a modicum of >>> strain on the Lightning cable without it popping out. >>> The same thing will happen to headphones connected to the new >>> iPhones. The Lightning adapter will pop right out, and the music >>> will stop. Talk about a buzzkill. Also, dongles are a pain. It's >>> one more thing to carry, one more thing you can lose, and it >>> makes using your sleek new device awkward. This is Band-Aid fail >>> if we've ever seen one. And if the Band-Aid doesn't work, then >>> something's gonna bleed out. >>> >>> The other glaring problem with using the Lightning port for >>> connecting headphones is that you preclude the phone from >>> charging while listening to music. Pay special attention over the >>> next few days to when you have to go charge your phone. Were you >>> listening to music at the time? Not any more. >>> >>> Wired is still better >>> >>> Wired headphones don't usually rely on batteries, and when they >>> do, they are often user replaceable, or at the very least last >>> much longer than anything Apple is offering. Plus, as good as >>> Bluetooth has become in recent years, it's still no substitute >>> for the rich audio experience you get from a wired connection. >>> Today's wireless audio is probably good enough for the vast >>> majority of the iPhone 7's target audience, but audiophiles will >>> still prefer the better sound you can get from a >>> hard connection. >>> >>> If you're an audiophile on the hunt for the best phone with the >>> best sound, it isn't going to come from Apple. >>> >>> Take a look at the new LG V20 released just ahead of Apple's big >>> event. The phone was made for audio, with high-end DACs from >>> Sabre, a ton of high-end audio processing, and the ability to >>> record high-res audio as well. It all gets to the end user by way >>> of a standard headphone jack. >>> >>> Wireless is absolutely the future for headphones. But the day to >>> dismiss wired headphones has not yet come, no matter what Apple >>> says. By alienating a broad base of users, Apple will certainly >>> feel some fallout. Debates will roil on the internet, some users >>> will switch to Android phones in revolt, and some headphone >>> manufacturers will scramble to offer multiple versions of the >>> same headphones, only to find out it's too costly a transition to >>> sustain. >>> >>> But in the end, Apple won't flinch. It can afford to make such a >>> sweeping change, and weather the storm of insults and those who >>> chose to abandon ship. In the end, Apple will have its way, and >>> iPhone users will simply bear the burden of buying new >>> headphones, struggling with adapters, or tolerating subpar sound. >>> >>> Or, you know, buy an Android. >>> Kare >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > <Ancient_Aliens.vcf> -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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