Hi, The watch went on sale today as a pre order as did the iPhone 7 and 7+.
Neither ships or should is available till Friday the 16th. Os’s for watch and phone are available Tuesday 13th. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 10:40 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Only Apple could do this. I don’t believe the watch is available until the 13th and the phone next Friday. Not sure if the UK is different. On Sep 8, 2016, at 5:47 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com<mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote: On Saturday I’m going to the Apple Store and getting both products, phone and watch. I hope I can get the phone under the new I phone program. Kawal. On 8 Sep 2016, at 15:35, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net<mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: Kawal, that’s a complicated issue about the smart watches. Yes, blind people can use some of the Samsung watches to a certain degree. There’s real confusion about which ones talk and which don’t. The UK version does not for example have accessibility options but the United states version does. Steve Nut over there on the eyes-free list can speak to this with a lot more authority as he actually went down this path. Also, the accessibility isn’t as good. You can’t run a lot of the apps if any and not even all the included apps are accessible. As for the speaker, guys, there’s all sorts of water friendly options for speakers. Just because water gets in there doesn’t mean the end of the world. As Tim Cook mentioned, the engineers worked hard on the specific seals and ports to make sure they didn’t leak water. Then you manufacture your speaker out of something other than paper that will deal with water, seal it up and bob’s your uncle. Apple putting in a mechanism to use the speaker to eject the water is a pretty cool idea though. I have a gun that works on a similar principle so if you get it filled with water when you fire it won’t blow up in your face from the trapped gases. So here’s what I’m wondering, will voiceover work under water? What happens if I’m diving and tap the watch? :) On Sep 7, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com<mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote: I could imagine water being ejected from the speaker by itself. I know if water got in the speaker it would be terrifying. But Apple designed it so that the water would come out and it still worked. Would Samsung do that? Are they just copying each other or are Samsung smart watches not able to go in the water? Also blind people can’t use those smart watches or can they? On 7 Sep 2016, at 22:14, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote: Just curious, but why would you laugh about that? To me, if water got inside the speaker, that would be an oh crap! moment, I'd think. Or, is that kind of your point? --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. 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