I'm curious where you think Android accessibility is lacking, talkback
has all of the major voice over features and you can accomplish all of
the same tasks, it took Google a bit longer to get there than Apple
did, but I would say both platforms are equal as far as accessibility,
at least when it comes to using speech. Braille displays may be a
different story.
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I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a
huge negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to
hope the inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they
did this and reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here
in New Zealand. I'm the only blind person there, and people are
justifiably livid about the removal of the headphone jack. Most people
don't want this, and I suspect based on what has leaked that the
benefits to most people of upgrading will be so incremental that the
lack of a headphone jack will cause a lot of people to sit it out.
That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me,
because one thing that this process has taught me since I started
blogging about the possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm
at a time when it may have made a difference, is that I was naive to
think that blind people might be any more sensitive to and respectful
of the accessibility needs of others, such as the hearing impaired. I
guess I would like to think that since we know what impact
inaccessibility can have on our own lives, we would be sensitive to the
needs of others, even when the issues didn't affect us directly. But
that has proven a stupid pipe dream on my part, and I've found the
whole thing really upsetting. For the most part, it seems like it's
everyone for themselves these days, and if others are being thrown
under the bus, well too damn bad.
As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a hearing aid
wearer, i need to have my phone connected to the headphone jack almost
all the time I use it. Bluetooth latency is abysmal and not viable for
someone who moves through their phone at a good clip. Even if this were
to improve, Bluetooth drains hearing aid batteries in a profound way
and it's difficult to get through an entire business day of use without
the need to charge something.
And if I use the provided lightning adapter, then it appears I can't
then charge my phone while I use my phone. This is the most senseless,
selfish, stupid, user-unfriendly thing Apple has ever done. This
company, which parades their accessibility efforts like some sort of
badge of honour, appears to be about to crap all over one segment of
its accessibility market.
Something isn't automatically the future because Apple says it is. And
they're going too far this time, alienating too many people. Perhaps,
in time, a USB-C-based solution is going to be viable, and receive
carefully managed industry-wide adoption. But Apple isn't using USB-C
on its iDevices. It's using a proprietary port that it doesn't even
offer on its own personal computers, meaning you won't be able to use
the Lightning-based Ear Pods even with a Mac. That's two sets of
headphones you're going to have to carry around with you, unless you
don't mind having an adapter jutting out of the port you want to charge
your phone with. Absolutely absurd.
I believe it was Samsung that recently put out a series of ads mocking
Apple over the potential lack of a headphone jack. They know Apple has
given them a great gift. I just wish Android accessibility were more
viable for daily use. Because once my 6s Plus eventually expires, I'm
really going to be stuck. Hopefully, Apple will have seen sense by then
because there is certainly going to be a backlash.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org>
On 1/09/2016, at 6:15 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu
<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
Hello Mary,
My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an
active role in what the future brings. We, as consumers, have
alternatives and it's when we begin to explore these alternatives that
companies pay attention.
Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically
ridiculous decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts,
I'm not so certain that just because it decides something it better
will make it so.
I remember the fan fair Apple made about its watch--they thought it
would change the lives of the world. Well, as far as I can tell, my
world hasn't changed one bit either with or without it.
As far as Samsung is concerned, I don't think they'll be so quick to
follow Apple's lead in the coming future. As one of the executives of
Samsung recently said, "Samsung is at its best when it leads, not when
it follows."
My personal position is to just sit back, wait, and see. Fortunately
for me, I no longer have the desire to run out and purchase the latest
device just because it is the latest.
Mark
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<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on
the iPhone seven
Hi Mark,
Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the
disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the
storage card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery.
Also, if the other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible
earbuds with the new phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible
for people to use other headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth
these days, I suspect that the headphone jack will in fact be gone from
iPhones forever. Other device makers are already moving in this
direction. So it isn't just Apple. In fact, they will not be the first
ones to market without a headphone jack on the phone.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu
<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts
the new iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack.
When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the
removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory
to its flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market,
effectively, rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept
those features.
A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for iOS
devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC users
upon attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy
and vowed to turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use
iTunes in order to manage photos.
Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this
feature in the subsequent release of iTunes.
So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something
tells me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile).
Mark
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<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:43 AM
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Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on
the iPhone seven
When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack first
appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an adapter so
potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with
the iPhone 7. This coming to light does not surprise me in the least.
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