Well not sure about that one, I’m more inclined to think that if we could educate the sighted world as to how able we the blind are then life might be more of an equal footing for us the so called disabled. '
I work with people that after 8 years still can't see my abilities but can quickly tell people of my disability. I put it down to social ignorance towards others. -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2016 1:52 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. Simon, Yeah I know. If blind people were better educated and better qualified. it might be a different story. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 8/17/2016 3:49 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > ET, > > I can speak as both a blind person and someone that has senior management > people saying it's not an issue when advised of accessibility issues. > > I work for an organisation that calls itself an EEO that stands for > Equal Opotunity employer, > > I work in the area of IT Support and desktop administration. > > We have in the passed 18 months had a new managed windows desktop environment > installed this was mentioned on this list a month or so back. It's a citrix > based xen system which does not allow for screan reader access for those of > us with sight issues. > > Yet I'm expected to support this system without adaptive accessibility and my > director says well we're not bothering to do anything about it as it's only > an issue for 1 person. > > Other systems that are still being implemented are flash based and proving to > be issues and again I get well we're not changing things and the best one, > we'll find something else for you to do... > > > > Just a couple of vews to think of. > > Not everyone is willing to pull their head out of their A hole. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. > Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2016 4:19 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: amazon's accesability contact. > > No offense on the "excess ability wording so to play on it a bit... > If this upper management is supposed to deal with accessibility, then is it > not obvious they do not know the nuts and bolts thus they need to hear from > those these efforts is supposedly aimed at? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Are We Alone in the Universe? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 8/16/2016 9:13 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> I know for a fact that Peter corn is the head of the excess ability >> initiative and Amazon. I don't know who to take it too. I do know just as a >> general rule the people who are in charge of large efforts are not in the >> habit of answering nuts and bolts? This on an individual basis, just based >> on the fact that they are upper management. So, sure. Right to Peter corn at >> that address, assuming it is correct. But if you don't get an answer, don't >> be surprised. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:02 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> Mary, >>> Do you know this for a fact or are you speculating? If Peter Korn is not >>> the one to take it to, then who or what or where? >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>> On 8/16/2016 8:45 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> Given the fact that the email address you have is for Peter corn, the >>>> excess ability head guy at Amazon, I wouldn't expect a reply from that >>>> address from him personally. That sounds like something that would not be >>>> something he would directly deal with as head of the whole department. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:01 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well. This was shared some time ago so may be out of service now, who >>>>> knows. >>>>> >>>>> pk...@amazon.com >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>>> On 8/16/2016 6:51 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>>>>> ...and when I go to the your orders page and choose digital >>>>>> orders, and locate my items, and choose download your music...I >>>>>> reach an error that says "we are having a problem with your music >>>>>> orders. >>>>>> I spent 2.5 hours with Amazon on the issue...which is why my >>>>>> question is for a direct accessibility contact, not instructions. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Kare >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2016, E.T. wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark Taylor posted some information probably last year about >>>>>>> downloading music via web interface. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have not done this as I have not bought music in a while. I am >>>>>>> pasting below the information Amazon sent to Mark. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As an alternative, you can download your music directly through >>>>>>> your web browser. To help make this easier, we've completely >>>>>>> redesigned web browser downloading. It now gives you the option >>>>>>> to download albums and multiple tracks at the same time using >>>>>>> .ZIP files. ZIP is a file format that compresses content for quicker >>>>>>> transfer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can download music through your browser after completing a >>>>>>> Digital Music Store purchase, from Your Orders >>>>>>> (https://www.amazon.com/yourorders), and from your music library >>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/musiclibrary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just select the albums or songs you want to download and click >>>>>>> the "Download" option onscreen. If prompted to install the >>>>>>> Amazon Music app for PC and Mac, you can click "No thanks, just >>>>>>> download music files directly." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For multiple songs and albums, your download starts >>>>>>> automatically in a pop-up window, and is split into one or more >>>>>>> .ZIP files. You can click the files in the download window once >>>>>>> they're ready to save to your computer. If you've only selected >>>>>>> one song, it downloads as an individual .MP3 file. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To complete your download: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Choose "Save" if your browser asks whether you want to open >>>>>>> or save the file(s). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Open the file(s) once the download is complete. Most browsers >>>>>>> display the status of your download onscreen, and then give you >>>>>>> an option to open it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Files typically save to your browser's default "Downloads" folder. >>>>>>> You can then move each of the music tracks you've downloaded to >>>>>>> the preferred location on your computer (e.g. "Your Music" or "Music"). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tip: To add your downloaded music to iTunes, launch the iTunes >>>>>>> app and select "Add File to Library" from the menu. Browse to >>>>>>> the file or location where you saved your download, then select >>>>>>> each track you want to add and confirm. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To learn more about downloading music through your browser, go to: >>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/help/music/zipdownloads >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can also use the Amazon Music app for PC and Mac to download >>>>>>> music to your computer. With the Amazon Music app, you can play >>>>>>> and download your music library, automatically export your >>>>>>> downloaded music to iTunes or Windows Media Player, and more. >>>>>>> For additional information, including installation instructions, go to: >>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/getamazonmusic >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8/16/2016 4:19 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>> I am asking here because I believe someone before shared their >>>>>>>> name and e-mail. >>>>>>>> I am beyond dismayed that I cannot download the mp3 items, >>>>>>>> three files, that I have purchased. >>>>>>>> Amazon seems to be force feeding their library program, which I >>>>>>>> am told by a supervisor should not be the case. >>>>>>>> Given all the spam coming from their direction of late, I am >>>>>>>> likely going to have to get someone else to log in and get my >>>>>>>> files as I require them under deadline. >>>>>>>> Still I want to raise the issue with accessibility, because the >>>>>>>> access page is worse than the rest oft he site. >>>>>>>> ideas? 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