So I’m a little confused by this and I’m sure it’s me and not you but let me 
ask.  What do you mean get up off the couch?  I have an integrated receiver 
that has a remote that’s way inaccessible but also is controllable over the web 
and by all sorts of alternate devices.  My fat backside can switch from 8 HDMI 
inputs, a bunch of optical inputs, XM radio, HD radio, streaming from all sorts 
of sources like Pandora, itunes capable, and gives me 9.1 audio with buckets 
and buckets of power per channel including the same amount per channel in the 
back and sides as the front.  Each channel uses several high end Burr Brown 24 
bit Dacs with several whopper floating point shark processors for the DSP.  
Also speaks every surround standard I’ve heard of and a bunch of dolby varients 
I haven’t.  The DTS is pretty good.  Now is it as good as discrete components 
and all hand wound coils and all that, no but it’s better than the average junk 
you’ll grab at Best Buy or Walmart.  Actually you could get in the Magnolia 
audio sections of Bestbuy so that might not be a good example.  So what do you 
mean by get off the couch?
        Even with super high end options I had remotes all be it very simple.  
Some devices have physical knobs and very limited controls, I was always amazed 
how minimalist the really high end gear is but let’s say in the $10,000 or less 
space where most high end home theater lies won’t you have all the remote 
options and interconnection options you could want?  You’re still using the 
same craptastic compressed digital audio so again this might be a lot of gear 
for nothing but I will say a nice high bandwidth recording like a high end DTS 
music recording (losslessish) or super audio CD etc sounds pretty stunning on a 
better than average Denon receiver.  Not like my old Krell KSA160 but pretty 
good, better than a sound bar anyway.

(although I do have a sound bar in the bedroom)  

The one area I think people might not want to get off the couch is the initial 
installation and setup.  It’s harder than your average apple product but you 
could pay the $$$ to have someone install it if you felt overwhelmed.

It makes me sad we’re talking about the end of good audio here.



On 6/27/16, 3:29 AM, "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on 
behalf of listse...@me.com> wrote:

Yeah, good speakers aren’t a thing any more because “Good enough”.  There must 
be a solution to this problem.  Nobody wants to build up an expensive component 
system because playing your media from analog or digital sources requires 
physical effort and requires actually getting up off the sofa.  And you have to 
actually pay attention to the output and not, say, fiddle around with your 
smartphone.

And there is a solution: big speakers you connect to your network.  Only 
everyone in this game has their own stupid proprietary solution (AirPlay, 
Sonos, ChromeCast Audio) the result of which is that we still haven’t actually 
solved the problem of how you get your computing devices to command your 
speakers to make noises using data stored on your NAS or from the cloud over 
your fast pipe.  That’s where we’ve got to go.  Get all your CDs, DVDs, tapes, 
LPs ripped into the best lossless formats that make sense, or get the HD 
equivalents, and we can do this, someday.  Just as soon as the studios pull 
their fingers out of their bottoms and acknowledge that there’s a market for 
high-quality masters.

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